Well done Dan, right on the botten.
The reason why I said this onlist is that I have come from more or
less nothing to doing most things on the mac without any issues. Yes,
I ask the odd question, but in all fairness they were complex
questions on specific parts of applications.
As to comparing macs to linux, he should do as I used to do when
working for royls roice in bristol, they used unix and I had it
running with a talking terminal so that is the old days.
On 24 Sep 2007, at 00:05, Dan Keys wrote:
Hello List and James,
One of the things I really love with OS X 4, is that it can be
explored and learned. In fact, the VoiceOver Getting Started MP3
Manual expresses that theme.
While I realize and understand that we all learn things
differently. Or perhaps slower or faster than someone else, I do
say that in part I agree with James in this.
Why cant people read documentation. Do research before asking a
bunch of questions.
As a person who recently retired from working with disabled college
students on a daily basis, I understand this. But I always
encouraged my students to research answers, as well as read any
existing documentation or help files. Questions are a part of how
we learn. But those same questions should also be examined by the
questioner before going overboard. I seriously doubt that James is
upset about a few questions. What I think he is trying to say is
this. Please do as most of the rest of us have done and read
documentation, look up answers on the net. And yes, if you still
have questions, than please ask away.
Quite frankly, any of my students who learned to do his or her own
learning felt better about all the accomplishments, they achieved,
no matter how small or how big.
So I strongly urge all of us to do all we can toward learning to
work in our differing environments. And as we all know, many
members on this list are quite accomplished and within reason, we
all try to help each other. Now days, so much documentation is
available to all of us and I'd hope we would all want to take
advantage of it. I sure do.
Oh yes, while I'm thinking of it. In a few weeks, Leopard will be
out. Guess what? That means we will all be learning another OS. But
that's okay, because I'm looking forward to it.
Dan
On Sep 23, 2007, at 3:03 PM, James Jolley wrote:
Hi folks,
What is it with some people on this list not bothering to read
documentation or attempt to work things out for themselves? This
Sean person or whoever he is constantly posts without any common
sense. He doesn't seem to obviously read documentation. Alright, I
have asked the odd question but let's run down what I managed to
do within my first month:
1. Sorted out male
2. Sorted out newsgroup access.
3. Gotten myself a decent set of apps for digital editting.
4. Installed all the tools necessary for writing and playing
interactive fiction.
5. Gotten myself aquainted with mac OS from scratch as it is a
good deal different to OS 9 with outspoken.
6. Installed and used VLC media player.
7. Gotten Fusion for running windows and installed it independently.
8. Managed to update my blog and get to grips with Marsedit 2.0
Oh, let me see, I bought my mac in august and started from nothing?
I forgot, people on this list seem to think I don't know what the
hell I am on about. With a wide range of experience in music
composition, arrangement and engineering, not to mention
mathematical research and so on I am well aquainted with computers
and there abilities. I started with Eureka A4 systems, programmed
them and used them for music composition and arrangement.
My point really is that it is getting rather boring to see the
same requests on this list and people don't take time to learn
things. Why? If you buy a mac, invest the time in learning it.
Just my thoughts.
-James-
