Oh, this one isn't bad. By default, tab jumps to page controls, like
form elements and other buttons. So, to jump immediately into a search
box on most pages you just hit tab. Now, hold down option key and
press tab, and you'll hear links included with your tabbing. There is
a Safari preference to switch this behavior around.
Good luck,
Ryan
On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Me too. I do have yet another question though; pertaining to
tabbing through links in a webpage, the concept doesn't seem to want
to work for some pages.
For example, I logged on to the test page and it worked fine, but
when I log on to Blind cool Tech for example, as soon as I interact
with the html, and press tab the html area loses focus and I begin
tabbing through window controls. Not only that, but if I tab
completely back around to the html content area again, Safari
becomes busy for a few seconds.
I'm curious if others find this behavior and what might be happening
here?... this is one example of something that just seems a bit
over the top annoying to me. <smile> Any thoughts?...
there are obviously work arounds for this, especially in Leopard,
but I'm wondering why it happens. Also, just to clarify a bit on my
earlier posts on web use, one thing I like to do is to quickly tab
through links on a page, and then read a few lines of material in
the general vicinity of a particular link. I'm finding this to be a
bit difficult to do quickly as I need to switch back and forth
between the tab key and VO arrows, and the best way seems to be to
lock the VO keys, but then the tab key doesn't work for the same
functionality, so it's a bit of a gymnastic.
I'm curious what people's browsing habits are like in regard to VO /
Safari, which is why I'd asked David earlier about such... If
anyone feels up to chiming in, I'd certainly dig on hearing your
experiences! <smile>
Thanks so much and have a wonderful evening!...
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:41 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
This worked just fine for me. I used vokeys with arrows once I had
interacted with the html, I could have just tabbed and pressed
space on the popup press down arrow to get to my fruit, press
enter, tab to and activate submit with space.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
HTML includes select boxes where you can pick one item and select
boxes
where you can pick multiple items. Your report is a bit confusing
because you refer to "multi-select list boxes" but go on to give
selecting your state from a select control as an example:
presumably you
only have the one state. So I gather you're experiencing problems
with
select boxes generally. The examples you've given are quite complex
pages, so I've created an extremely simple test case at:
http://benjaminhawkeslewis.com/www/test-cases/simple-select.php
Are you able to select your favorite fruit from the list and
submit the
form? You should get returned a page that tells you which fruit you
selected. If not, can you please describe the keys you're pressing
and
what happens when you press them? (I'd test this myself, but I don't
have Leopard and won't have it any time soon.)
--
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Ryan Dour wrote:
Hello,
Everyone click the following two links and discover the
horrifying result. You will not be able to complete these forms.
This is due to a lack of support for multi-select list boxes. As
you could imagine, this hurts Voiceover in a very significant
way. I could forgive application specific access issues, but this
one if not fixed will hurt the entire community for surfing the
web effectively.
https://disney.recruitmax.com/main/careerportal/default.cfm?szUniqueCareerPortalID=d806a3ad-06f5-4622-b614-74475b752e8e&szIsJobBoard=0
That's a Disney job site. Try and find a job by picking your
state, town, or any combination of those. Good luck. Now try it
under Tiger. Works perfectly. We've taken a major step backwards.
http://www.vonage.com/vaccess
Try and find a local Vonage VAccess number near you. Those let
you dial a local Vonage nunber and call your friends who have
Vonage. You can select by location. Try that out, enter your area
code. Then try and select the "town" you're near to. Good luck
again. Now try it with Tiger.
Finally, try using Apple's own job board and try selecting
California. Now try and select a city to narrow down your search.
Good luck, you can't.
I've never posted something in this form with this level of
attitude. This is so important that if not fixed, it will cause
major damage to the reputation of Voiceover.
Everyone fill out bug reports at developer.apple.com or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and let them know the massive impact this will have on your
surfability. Find other sites to use as examples. If this isn't
fixed soon I'd hate to see the opinions of those out there who
will be reviewing Voiceover for its access ability.
Thanks,
Ryan Dour
815-308-7607
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