I'lll have to poke around a bit. This used to move the horizontal
splitter but it didn't work for me either.
Marshall
On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:43 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I did this but no dice. Strange enough I could go to the mailbox
table and press VO J and it would jump to the messages table, but it
wouldn't go to back to the mailbox table. Also it doesn't work iwhen
I bring up a message still.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Marshall F. Scott wrote:
Position the mouse cursor over the Message list. Move vertically
down until you are over the horizontal splitter. Double click this
splitter and then move into the message list and try CO-J.
HTMS
Marshal
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:23 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Now your talking, how can I tell. I am in my message table but I
don't knowhow to tell if that is the only thing that has focus.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Marshall F. Scott wrote:
I also get the sound when I press CO-J. Do you have the content
area visible? I think that CO-J won't work if the message list
is the only thing that is displayed in that pane.
HTMS
Marshall
On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:07 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I guess, it doesn't work for me but using command ` works just
as well. Now I don't have to use VO F2.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:57 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
as far as I know, vo-j works out of the box.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:21 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I can do everything but the VO J thing. The way you described
in your message is how I learned on Tiger and I did not know
about the VO J Any thoughts on why this wouldn't work for me?
Is there a setting or a view I need to have set?
On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:39 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
here are two ways to do this, find the messages with tab,
arrow up and down through the list till you find the message
you seek, tab and listen, shift tab and either delete or go on.
Press enter on a message and listen, close and or delete and
move on.
Press vo j to read the message, press vo j to go back to the
list and either delete or move on. No interacting needed
unless you want to position yourself on a column heading such
as subject or sender. In this case, interact with the
message table, vo left/right to the column heading you want
to hear, stop interacting with the messages table, press vo j
to read a message after up or down arrowing to it and vo j to
get back to the list.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:00 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Are you using Leopard Mail? I hear interact with message
table, then I press VO J and get a bong. I stop interacting
with the table and hear stop interacting with message table
and press VO J and again nothing happens but the bong. I
press enter on the message and it speaks, then I press VO J
and get the bong again. I have to either delete the message
or close the Window in order to get the response you are
getting.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:happens Try
interacting with your message table. find a message you
want to read, using your up / down arrow keys. Once you're
on the message, press VO J. You should then immediately be
taken to the msg body and it should begin reading. When
you've heard enough, simply press VO J again and you should
then be returned to the msg table where you were...
HTH
Smiles,
C-Quinn :)
On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:29 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
What is VO J supposed to do? I have tried this key
combination in every instance of mail and all I get is the
bong sound each time. I can interact, not interact, be in
a message or not and this key combination doesn't work
anywhere. I think my computer is broke.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:14 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
I have to concur with cara here. It takes a bit of
getting used to and I do things a bit differently in that
I tab instead of vo j, but it is fast.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Andrew, I personally interact with the message table,
use VO right / left arrows to navigate to the subject or
sender column, and then simply use standard up / down
arrows to quickly scroll through the message list. To
read a particular note, I use VO j and then VO j back
out of it to get back to where I was in the message
list... Does this make sense?...
I can go very quickly through lots of email this way.
If I want to delete a message, I use the delete key in
the message list and not in the message body itself.
I've found that using the del key in the message body
causes the message list to lose focus, so that I need to
interact with it again, whereas if I VO j out of the
message after I've read it, I'm still focused in the
message list...
HTH
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Nov 1, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
Hi,
Ok. What about the message list - this is more
annoying than the
reading issue, as it takes ages before the message
subject is read out
in the list.
Andrew.
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Subject: Re: Upgrade to Leopard - annoying feature in
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you need to interact with the message to read it unless
you want to
either press enter, vo-j or tab to read it.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
Hi,
I upgraded to Leopard yesterday, I like the new voice.
I have though an annoying feature in Mail, in that
when you are
arrowing
through the list of messages, it is reading various
status indicators,
and I just want the message subject (and possibly
date) read out. I
managed to get rid of some of the information by
removing some of the
columns from the view, but has anyone got any tips on
getting this
back
as it was before?
The other thing in Mail is that reading via the cursor
is irratic - it
works quite a bit of the time, but for no reason,
sometimes the system
reads out the complete message, and the arrow keys
have no effect.
Did clean reinstall - copied all user settings to
external storage
first.
Thanks.
Andrew.
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University of Utah - CVRTI
95 South 2000 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
Phone: (801) 587-9523
Fax: (801) 581-3128
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: scott9576a
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University of Utah - CVRTI
95 South 2000 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
Phone: (801) 587-9523
Fax: (801) 581-3128
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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