What I mean by slip is that when you hear the top level at the folder, that is not where you are.
----- Original Message ----- From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: shortcuts I don't slip 20 times. You just have to right click and choose copy alias instead of just copy. This works no matter the view. On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:54 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > it does make sense since you are at the top level of the folder and > it is > easy to slip. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: shortcuts > > > I understand that, but if your system says Pod-cast alias when you > land on it but not when you copy it. What do you do? If the answer is > Icon View then that doesn't make sence. > On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:07 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > >> when you press command-c, you need to be absolutely certain you are >> on the >> right item. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >> X by >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:59 AM >> Subject: Re: shortcuts >> >> >> I want you to picture this in column mode. I navigate to the pod-cast >> folder and create the alias. I am able to rename and I just press >> enter. This names the new folder pod-cast alias. I press command c to >> copy it. It doesn't say copy podcast alias it says copy podcast. I >> move down to a folder named River Walk and press command C t and it >> says copy River Walk. For some reason it isn't copying the alias. I >> say this because it doesn't say alias when I copy it and because the >> same example works if I make a alias of a application. Go figure >> On Dec 4, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >>> Shaun, I just tried your experiment and it worked flawlessly for me. >>> >>> 1 I navigated to my podcasts folder in my user folder and then in my >>> music/Itunes/ITunesmusic folder. I ctrl clicked on podcasts and >>> created an alias, renamed it, and pressed enter... >>> >>> 2 I copied it to my desktop folder in my user folder. >>> >>> I then closed my finder window and went to the desktop, and then >>> opened my alias, which I'd called My podcasts... >>> >>> 3 A finder window came up which was titled podcasts, as it was >>> opening my podcasts folder. >>> >>> 4 I then deleted a podcast, closed the window, and checked the trash >>> to see if it was there. It was... >>> >>> 5 I visited my original podcast folder and checked that the item was >>> in fact deleted, and it was. >>> >>> 6 For the sake of thoroughness, I also clicked on the original alias >>> I'd just made which was also still in the same folder as my podcasts >>> folder, as I'd not deleted it yet, after I'd pasted it to my >>> desktop. Again, as predicted, my podcasts folder opened, and the >>> podcast I'd deleted was still deleted. >>> >>> 7 I should also note that during all of this, no names or such were >>> changed at all, aside from anything I, myself changed. I also want >>> to mention that I use icon view in the finder. >>> >>> 8 I then proceeded to recopy the podcast I'd moved to the trash, >>> back to its original location, and remove my aliases. >>> >>> 9 I emptied the trash, and all was as when I'd started. >>> >>> I"m not sure what's happening on your end, but it sure sounds like >>> you're making a copy of the original folder somehow. >>> >>> If anything comes to mind, I'll be sure and post it, K?... For now, >>> best of luck!... >>> >>> Have a wonderful day!... >>> >>> Smiles, >>> >>> Cara :) >>> >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 6:29 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Yup,I changed it to Notepad and moved it to the Desktop and it >>>> opened Textedit. This tells us that it works properly and there is >>>> something wrong with the ITunes/Music/Podcast folder when the same >>>> is attempted. The reason why this interest me so much is because I >>>> look at this folder often instead of going through I Tunes. What do >>>> you or anyone else think? >>>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:33 AM, David Poehlman wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know why this should happen. Try this, take text edit, >>>>> make an >>>>> alias of it, place the alias on the desktop, rename it, open it, >>>>> do you get >>>>> text edit? If so, things are working as they should and it may be >>>>> that the >>>>> podcast folders are smart and will not work together or something >>>>> like that. >>>>> I have not tried doing an alias with a folder but it should work. >>>>> We'll >>>>> have to dig into this. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>>> OS X by >>>>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:45 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: shortcuts >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This makes sence but it doesn't work. Para and David please follow >>>>> me >>>>> because this is interesting. Following a mixture of both of your >>>>> steps >>>>> this is what I did, this is what I got and this is what peaks my >>>>> interest. What I did is press command L on the pod-cast folder in >>>>> the >>>>> Finder. This created a alias that wanted me to rename it. I named >>>>> it >>>>> "I Listen". I copied this folder to the Desktop. I went into the I >>>>> Listen folder and deleted a podcast. I went back to my original >>>>> pod- >>>>> cast folder and it was still there. Here is what is interesting. I >>>>> renamed the alias as soon as it prompted me to do so to I >>>>> listen. I >>>>> copied that folder to the desktop but it changed back to Pod-cast >>>>> not >>>>> I Listen. I did not delete the copy of the first I Listen pod-cast >>>>> folder and it was updated with the deleted pod-cast but the >>>>> original >>>>> wasn't touched. What am I missing here? >>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Shaun, this was what confused me before when trying to answer >>>>>> your >>>>>> question. Do you have a single alias to point to your podcast >>>>>> folder or several to point to each individual podcast within your >>>>>> podcast folder?... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have many aliases which point to many podcasts, then >>>>>> regardless of whether you delete or do anything to, your aliases, >>>>>> your original items will remain in the original folder. Now, if >>>>>> you >>>>>> have just one alias which points to your podcast folder, anything >>>>>> you change from there will act on the original folder. I.E. if >>>>>> you >>>>>> remove a podcast that you arrive at from opening your alias, then >>>>>> it >>>>>> will be removed from your original folder. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does this make sense?... >>>>>> >>>>>> An alias points to a particular object, so if you create an alias >>>>>> which points to a folder, it would tell that folder to open when >>>>>> you >>>>>> click on the alias... >>>>>> >>>>>> So you'd actually be opening the original folder in this case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, if you've created many aliases which point to files within a >>>>>> folder, they will do the same thing; I.E. open a podcast within >>>>>> your >>>>>> podcast folder. >>>>>> >>>>>> But in the case of any alias, whatever you do to it doesn't >>>>>> effect >>>>>> what it points to. So, if you delete an alias, you simply remove >>>>>> the pointer which previously pointed to the folder or file. The >>>>>> folder or file is still there. The reason that my example above >>>>>> with the single alias to the folder works, is because after you >>>>>> click on your alias which points to your folder, what you get >>>>>> then, >>>>>> is the actual folder opening, and you can see the actual files. >>>>>> So >>>>>> whatever you do to them then, happens in the actual folder. what >>>>>> you're seeing in the folder are not aliases and are the actual >>>>>> files... >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope this helps!... >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a wonderful day!... >>>>>> >>>>>> Smiles, >>>>>> >>>>>> Cara :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:10 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Still they don't update themselves. I delete a pod-cast on the >>>>>>> desktop it doesn't delete it from the original. My question is >>>>>>> why? >>>>>>> To continue the file path podcast/macbreakweekly/episode. If >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> is the alias I put on the desktop as a alias and I delete >>>>>>> episode >>>>>>> in the alias I still have a copy of what was deleted in the >>>>>>> original. >>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Jos wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In your music/iTunes/iTunes Music folder there is a folder for >>>>>>>> podcasts. If you create an alias for that folder and put it on >>>>>>>> your desktop you can then simply click that alias and it will >>>>>>>> automatically navigate to that folder and show you its contents >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Finder. Aliases are just pointers to quickly open a file, >>>>>>>> folder, >>>>>>>> application, etc, without moving it from its current location. >>>>>>>> Josh de Lioncourt >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...my other mail provider is an owl... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 Dec, 2007, at 10:00 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I almost understand what you are saying, but in the instance >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> the pod-cast folder in my Music folder you are saying just >>>>>>>>> move >>>>>>>>> that folder to the new place on the system. In regards to the >>>>>>>>> alias I don't understand it's purpose. If I create a alias for >>>>>>>>> this folder on my Desktop what is it's purpose? If a new pod- >>>>>>>>> cast >>>>>>>>> is added the alias knows nothing about it. In other words it's >>>>>>>>> not updated like the original. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> View my Online Portfolio at: >>>>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --- >>> View my Online Portfolio at: >>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
