no, you are there, but it is kind of like looking at a book in profile, you look at the cover of the book, but you are inside of the book when you see it. I had trouble with this at first and now can do anything I want in column mode but preffer except in certain situations already described to work in Icon mode.
----- Original Message ----- From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: shortcuts OK, I guess it is a Mac thing. It says I am there but I am really not. On Dec 4, 2007, at 1:22 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > What I mean by slip is that when you hear the top level at the > folder, that > is not where you are. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: shortcuts > > > I don't slip 20 times. You just have to right click and choose copy > alias instead of just copy. This works no matter the view. > On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:54 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > >> it does make sense since you are at the top level of the folder and >> it is >> easy to slip. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >> X by >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:24 PM >> Subject: Re: shortcuts >> >> >> I understand that, but if your system says Pod-cast alias when you >> land on it but not when you copy it. What do you do? If the answer is >> Icon View then that doesn't make sence. >> On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:07 PM, David Poehlman wrote: >> >>> when you press command-c, you need to be absolutely certain you are >>> on the >>> right item. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >>> X by >>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:59 AM >>> Subject: Re: shortcuts >>> >>> >>> I want you to picture this in column mode. I navigate to the pod- >>> cast >>> folder and create the alias. I am able to rename and I just press >>> enter. This names the new folder pod-cast alias. I press command c >>> to >>> copy it. It doesn't say copy podcast alias it says copy podcast. I >>> move down to a folder named River Walk and press command C t and it >>> says copy River Walk. For some reason it isn't copying the alias. I >>> say this because it doesn't say alias when I copy it and because the >>> same example works if I make a alias of a application. Go figure >>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>> >>>> Shaun, I just tried your experiment and it worked flawlessly for >>>> me. >>>> >>>> 1 I navigated to my podcasts folder in my user folder and then in >>>> my >>>> music/Itunes/ITunesmusic folder. I ctrl clicked on podcasts and >>>> created an alias, renamed it, and pressed enter... >>>> >>>> 2 I copied it to my desktop folder in my user folder. >>>> >>>> I then closed my finder window and went to the desktop, and then >>>> opened my alias, which I'd called My podcasts... >>>> >>>> 3 A finder window came up which was titled podcasts, as it was >>>> opening my podcasts folder. >>>> >>>> 4 I then deleted a podcast, closed the window, and checked the >>>> trash >>>> to see if it was there. It was... >>>> >>>> 5 I visited my original podcast folder and checked that the item >>>> was >>>> in fact deleted, and it was. >>>> >>>> 6 For the sake of thoroughness, I also clicked on the original >>>> alias >>>> I'd just made which was also still in the same folder as my >>>> podcasts >>>> folder, as I'd not deleted it yet, after I'd pasted it to my >>>> desktop. Again, as predicted, my podcasts folder opened, and the >>>> podcast I'd deleted was still deleted. >>>> >>>> 7 I should also note that during all of this, no names or such were >>>> changed at all, aside from anything I, myself changed. I also want >>>> to mention that I use icon view in the finder. >>>> >>>> 8 I then proceeded to recopy the podcast I'd moved to the trash, >>>> back to its original location, and remove my aliases. >>>> >>>> 9 I emptied the trash, and all was as when I'd started. >>>> >>>> I"m not sure what's happening on your end, but it sure sounds like >>>> you're making a copy of the original folder somehow. >>>> >>>> If anything comes to mind, I'll be sure and post it, K?... For >>>> now, >>>> best of luck!... >>>> >>>> Have a wonderful day!... >>>> >>>> Smiles, >>>> >>>> Cara :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 6:29 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yup,I changed it to Notepad and moved it to the Desktop and it >>>>> opened Textedit. This tells us that it works properly and there is >>>>> something wrong with the ITunes/Music/Podcast folder when the same >>>>> is attempted. The reason why this interest me so much is because I >>>>> look at this folder often instead of going through I Tunes. What >>>>> do >>>>> you or anyone else think? >>>>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:33 AM, David Poehlman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know why this should happen. Try this, take text edit, >>>>>> make an >>>>>> alias of it, place the alias on the desktop, rename it, open it, >>>>>> do you get >>>>>> text edit? If so, things are working as they should and it may >>>>>> be >>>>>> that the >>>>>> podcast folders are smart and will not work together or something >>>>>> like that. >>>>>> I have not tried doing an alias with a folder but it should work. >>>>>> We'll >>>>>> have to dig into this. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>>>> OS X by >>>>>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:45 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: shortcuts >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This makes sence but it doesn't work. Para and David please >>>>>> follow >>>>>> me >>>>>> because this is interesting. Following a mixture of both of your >>>>>> steps >>>>>> this is what I did, this is what I got and this is what peaks my >>>>>> interest. What I did is press command L on the pod-cast folder in >>>>>> the >>>>>> Finder. This created a alias that wanted me to rename it. I named >>>>>> it >>>>>> "I Listen". I copied this folder to the Desktop. I went into >>>>>> the I >>>>>> Listen folder and deleted a podcast. I went back to my original >>>>>> pod- >>>>>> cast folder and it was still there. Here is what is >>>>>> interesting. I >>>>>> renamed the alias as soon as it prompted me to do so to I >>>>>> listen. I >>>>>> copied that folder to the desktop but it changed back to Pod-cast >>>>>> not >>>>>> I Listen. I did not delete the copy of the first I Listen pod- >>>>>> cast >>>>>> folder and it was updated with the deleted pod-cast but the >>>>>> original >>>>>> wasn't touched. What am I missing here? >>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Shaun, this was what confused me before when trying to answer >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> question. Do you have a single alias to point to your podcast >>>>>>> folder or several to point to each individual podcast within >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> podcast folder?... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have many aliases which point to many podcasts, then >>>>>>> regardless of whether you delete or do anything to, your >>>>>>> aliases, >>>>>>> your original items will remain in the original folder. Now, if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have just one alias which points to your podcast folder, >>>>>>> anything >>>>>>> you change from there will act on the original folder. I.E. if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> remove a podcast that you arrive at from opening your alias, >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> will be removed from your original folder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does this make sense?... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> An alias points to a particular object, so if you create an >>>>>>> alias >>>>>>> which points to a folder, it would tell that folder to open when >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> click on the alias... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So you'd actually be opening the original folder in this case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, if you've created many aliases which point to files >>>>>>> within a >>>>>>> folder, they will do the same thing; I.E. open a podcast within >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> podcast folder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But in the case of any alias, whatever you do to it doesn't >>>>>>> effect >>>>>>> what it points to. So, if you delete an alias, you simply >>>>>>> remove >>>>>>> the pointer which previously pointed to the folder or file. The >>>>>>> folder or file is still there. The reason that my example above >>>>>>> with the single alias to the folder works, is because after you >>>>>>> click on your alias which points to your folder, what you get >>>>>>> then, >>>>>>> is the actual folder opening, and you can see the actual files. >>>>>>> So >>>>>>> whatever you do to them then, happens in the actual folder. >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> you're seeing in the folder are not aliases and are the actual >>>>>>> files... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this helps!... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a wonderful day!... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Smiles, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cara :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:10 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still they don't update themselves. I delete a pod-cast on the >>>>>>>> desktop it doesn't delete it from the original. My question is >>>>>>>> why? >>>>>>>> To continue the file path podcast/macbreakweekly/episode. If >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> is the alias I put on the desktop as a alias and I delete >>>>>>>> episode >>>>>>>> in the alias I still have a copy of what was deleted in the >>>>>>>> original. >>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Jos wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In your music/iTunes/iTunes Music folder there is a folder for >>>>>>>>> podcasts. If you create an alias for that folder and put it >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> your desktop you can then simply click that alias and it will >>>>>>>>> automatically navigate to that folder and show you its >>>>>>>>> contents >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> Finder. Aliases are just pointers to quickly open a file, >>>>>>>>> folder, >>>>>>>>> application, etc, without moving it from its current location. >>>>>>>>> Josh de Lioncourt >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ...my other mail provider is an owl... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3 Dec, 2007, at 10:00 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I almost understand what you are saying, but in the instance >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> the pod-cast folder in my Music folder you are saying just >>>>>>>>>> move >>>>>>>>>> that folder to the new place on the system. In regards to the >>>>>>>>>> alias I don't understand it's purpose. If I create a alias >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> this folder on my Desktop what is it's purpose? If a new pod- >>>>>>>>>> cast >>>>>>>>>> is added the alias knows nothing about it. 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