Hi Esther, I was told by several sighted users to use the "easy
install" when installing Leopard. I did a clean install, because I
wanted to start from scratch; there wasn't anything on my Mac Mini
that I wanted to keep that I couldn't replace. I used the default
settings, even set up a /vPN to connect to the Internet. I knew
VoiceOver was on because I heard the spinning or my CD-ROM drive and
VoiceOver began speaking about five seconds after the drive began
spinning. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:15 PM, Esther wrote:
Thanks, David, for suggesting that VoiceOver speech volume might be
turned down.
I was going to put that in, too, but when I learned about the FN key
reversal
I thought I should get this sorted out first. Do you (or does
anyone else) know
whether inserting the Leopard install disc has a startup procedure
that allows
you to hear VoiceOver without using the existing settings? I
haven't done the
install, but sometimes there are keyboard startup settings (e.g.,
for booting into
single user mode) that will allow you to use the defaults. After
all, at that stage
there would be no way of knowing how Simon had set up his preferences
(for keyboard or for VoiceOver) on his individual account.
Cheers,
Esther
On Dec 12, 2007, at 03:38PM, David Poehlman wrote:
it is posible that the vo speech volume is down. try turning your
system to
max volume, then, use vo keys with command left and right arrow,
using up
arrow at each press of the arrow. for instance, left, up, left, up
and so
on. It creates a mess, but it should get you going. One thing
that might
also help is to press vo-shift-f8 to start the vo quickstart and vo
kicks in
after the intro.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Cavendish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS Xby
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard
Dear Esther,
Tried it all to no avail. Before installing Leopard, I had changed
the
keyboard setting to desktop to avoid having to press the FN key all
the
time, and that setting seems to have been kept by leopard. I know
that
because when I press FN with the functions keys, I hear various
funny noises
which I recgonise as changing volume or brightness. I've tried
hitting the
f6 key but I don't know now whether it's on or off. I've tried
various
combinations and VO is still silent. Does it sound serious to you?
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard
Hi Simon,
Remember that on a Macbook you need to hold down the FN key as
well as
the Command and F5 keys to get VoiceOver to start up. You may
also want
to hold down the F5 key on the Macbook for a while before turning on
VoiceOver, since I think it's the hardware Volume up key on the
Macbook.
(The top row should be Escape, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5. )
The other possible gotcha if your VoiceOver was not turned on
before your
friend left is that you hit the F6 (num lock) key on the keyboard
instead
of
F5. If so, try to press F6 again to toggle num lock off, and
issue your
command
of FN+Command+F5 to turn on VoiceOver.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Esther
On Wed December 12, 2007, at 01:42PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
Dear All,
I've just installed Leopard on my new Macbook. it turned out that
it came
with Tiger installed, and leopard on a CD. So I've just had it
installed
with sighted assistance, as I'm not that experienced in VO yet.
All went
smoothly and my friend has gone now. But when I tried to get my
VO to
start with the usual combination of keys Command+f5 so that i
could use my
Macbook, nothing happens. Does anyone know what might have
happened? This
command worked perfectly well in tiger.
S O S from desperate simon!
