Dear Simon, Let's assume that you have a working VoiceOver installation, and that your Function keys are turned on to use software function instead of hardware function. If your volume is turned up (from pressing FN + F5) then when you press F6 you should hear a kind of "boing" sound (I think they call it "funk"). Press FN+F6 once. You should not hear any sounds at all. Now try pressing Command and F5. Does VoiceOver come on? If not, press FN+F6 a second time and try Command + F5 again.
The "funk" sound occurs whether or not you have VoiceOver running. Please believe that it is unlikely you could have done anything to the VoiceOver installation. It's just a question of getting it properly started. And nothing that you've done isn't something someone else hasn't already had problems with already. Cheers, Esther On Wednesday, December 12, 2007, at 02:31PM, "Richie Gardenhire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The one thing I learned from that experience, to try those steps >Esther outlined; Leopard has audible cues that will indicate when >VoiceOver is turned on, given all things have been tried. Thanks >again, Esther. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. >On Dec 12, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Dear Simon, >> >> Is it possible that you pressed FN+num lock by mistake? The most >> likely things are: (1) you don't have the volume up high enough to >> hear the VoiceOver voice or (2) you accidentally managed to >> press the num lock (F6) key so that your keyboard is not sending >> the characters you expect. (Item 2 happened to Richie Gardenhire, >> and is a particular problem to be aware of if you press keys while >> VoiceOver is not running). >> >> If you switched hardware and software functions for the Function >> keys. I think you need to press FN+F6 to toggle the num lock. >> >> I'm sure there is no problem with your VoiceOver install. I think >> it is one of the two problems I mentioned above. Make sure you >> (now) use FN+F5 to put your MacBook at maximum speaker >> volume before you try anything else. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Dec 12, 2007, at 02:10PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>> Dear Esther, >>> >>> Tried it all to no avail. Before installing Leopard, I had changed >>> the >>> keyboard setting to desktop to avoid having to press the FN key all >>> the >>> time, and that setting seems to have been kept by leopard. I know >>> that >>> because when I press FN with the functions keys, I hear various >>> funny noises >>> which I recgonise as changing volume or brightness. I've tried >>> hitting the >>> f6 key but I don't know now whether it's on or off. I've tried >>> various >>> combinations and VO is still silent. Does it sound serious to you? >>> >>> Simon >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>> OS X by >>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:54 PM >>> Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard >>> >>> >>>> Hi Simon, >>>> >>>> Remember that on a Macbook you need to hold down the FN key as >>>> well as >>>> the Command and F5 keys to get VoiceOver to start up. You may >>>> also want >>>> to hold down the F5 key on the Macbook for a while before turning on >>>> VoiceOver, since I think it's the hardware Volume up key on the >>>> Macbook. >>>> (The top row should be Escape, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5. ) >>>> >>>> The other possible gotcha if your VoiceOver was not turned on >>>> before your >>>> friend left is that you hit the F6 (num lock) key on the keyboard >>>> instead >>>> of >>>> F5. If so, try to press F6 again to toggle num lock off, and >>>> issue your >>>> command >>>> of FN+Command+F5 to turn on VoiceOver. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed December 12, 2007, at 01:42PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> I've just installed Leopard on my new Macbook. it turned out that >>>>> it came >>>>> with Tiger installed, and leopard on a CD. So I've just had it >>>>> installed >>>>> with sighted assistance, as I'm not that experienced in VO yet. >>>>> All went >>>>> smoothly and my friend has gone now. But when I tried to get my >>>>> VO to >>>>> start with the usual combination of keys Command+f5 so that i >>>>> could use my >>>>> Macbook, nothing happens. Does anyone know what might have >>>>> happened? This >>>>> command worked perfectly well in tiger. >>>>> >>>>> S O S from desperate simon! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > >
