Dear Esther,
I hear no boing sound when pressing fn+f6. The only fundction keys that
produce a sound is f9 f10 and f11 without pressing the fn key and f11 will
produce a boing sound with or without pressing the fn key.
I've tried starting vo presentation by presssing control+option+shift f8 but
that hasn't started anything either. I've tried messing about with the
control+option+command left/right arrow and then arrow up but to no avail.
I still haven't been able to find anybody who could look at the screen for
me. A friend promised he might be able to call later on this afternoon if I
haven't resolved the issue. I'm sorry to be such a bore. I've been using
computers for over 10 years, and here I am feeling like a silly child. Bear
with me, guys.
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard
Dear Simon,
Let's assume that you have a working VoiceOver installation, and
that your Function keys are turned on to use software function instead
of hardware function. If your volume is turned up (from pressing
FN + F5) then when you press F6 you should hear a kind
of "boing" sound (I think they call it "funk"). Press FN+F6 once.
You should not hear any sounds at all. Now try pressing Command
and F5. Does VoiceOver come on? If not, press FN+F6 a second
time and try Command + F5 again.
The "funk" sound occurs whether or not you have VoiceOver running.
Please believe that it is unlikely you could have done anything to
the VoiceOver installation. It's just a question of getting it properly
started. And nothing that you've done isn't something someone
else hasn't already had problems with already.
Cheers,
Esther
On Wednesday, December 12, 2007, at 02:31PM, "Richie Gardenhire"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The one thing I learned from that experience, to try those steps
Esther outlined; Leopard has audible cues that will indicate when
VoiceOver is turned on, given all things have been tried. Thanks
again, Esther. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
On Dec 12, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Esther wrote:
Dear Simon,
Is it possible that you pressed FN+num lock by mistake? The most
likely things are: (1) you don't have the volume up high enough to
hear the VoiceOver voice or (2) you accidentally managed to
press the num lock (F6) key so that your keyboard is not sending
the characters you expect. (Item 2 happened to Richie Gardenhire,
and is a particular problem to be aware of if you press keys while
VoiceOver is not running).
If you switched hardware and software functions for the Function
keys. I think you need to press FN+F6 to toggle the num lock.
I'm sure there is no problem with your VoiceOver install. I think
it is one of the two problems I mentioned above. Make sure you
(now) use FN+F5 to put your MacBook at maximum speaker
volume before you try anything else.
Cheers,
Esther
On Dec 12, 2007, at 02:10PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
Dear Esther,
Tried it all to no avail. Before installing Leopard, I had changed
the
keyboard setting to desktop to avoid having to press the FN key all
the
time, and that setting seems to have been kept by leopard. I know
that
because when I press FN with the functions keys, I hear various
funny noises
which I recgonise as changing volume or brightness. I've tried
hitting the
f6 key but I don't know now whether it's on or off. I've tried
various
combinations and VO is still silent. Does it sound serious to you?
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard
Hi Simon,
Remember that on a Macbook you need to hold down the FN key as
well as
the Command and F5 keys to get VoiceOver to start up. You may
also want
to hold down the F5 key on the Macbook for a while before turning on
VoiceOver, since I think it's the hardware Volume up key on the
Macbook.
(The top row should be Escape, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5. )
The other possible gotcha if your VoiceOver was not turned on
before your
friend left is that you hit the F6 (num lock) key on the keyboard
instead
of
F5. If so, try to press F6 again to toggle num lock off, and
issue your
command
of FN+Command+F5 to turn on VoiceOver.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Esther
On Wed December 12, 2007, at 01:42PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
Dear All,
I've just installed Leopard on my new Macbook. it turned out that
it came
with Tiger installed, and leopard on a CD. So I've just had it
installed
with sighted assistance, as I'm not that experienced in VO yet.
All went
smoothly and my friend has gone now. But when I tried to get my
VO to
start with the usual combination of keys Command+f5 so that i
could use my
Macbook, nothing happens. Does anyone know what might have
happened? This
command worked perfectly well in tiger.
S O S from desperate simon!
