Yeah, good work on that Cara
On 6-Feb-08, at 10:45 PM, vashaun jones wrote:
I don't know the technological side of your note, but you were so
clear you make me want to fix the flash issues myself. You rock and
you rool.
On Feb 6, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Hi All, below is a note I just got back from Apple Accessibility
concerning an earlier note I'd sent them in regard to issues with
VO and Safari, including Flash content. I've included both the
response and original below and am wondering if I'm correct in my
thoughts about Flash elements within Safari?… I know it's been
chatted about here for a bit, but I really would appreciate your
opinions on my below points; Am I understanding it correctly?…
I do plan to correspond with Adobe, but I'd like to have all my
ducks in a row as it were. <smile>
Thanks so much for your time, and have a most wonderful evening!…
Smiles,
Cara :)
Begin forwarded message:
Hi Cara:
Thank you for notifying Apple about the issue you're having in
Safari. It's been forwarded to the engineers.
Regarding Flash, the solution is to have an accessible flash
player and for that, I encourage you to contact Adobe. Apple's
been asking them about this for a long time but I'm sure they
would appreciate hearing from you, the user, as well.
On Jan 27, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Hello, Thanks so much for your reply to my note, and for
forwarding my concerns along...
here is my second set of issues with VO which also centers around
Safari.
• When interacting with certain links, VO is unable to read the
entire text of the link. I.E. When searching in Google, if one
mistypes a search term or searches on something that Google
doesn't quite recognize, it may suggest an alternate spelling or
different term altogether. Unfortunately, with VO, I haven't
found a way to actually read the suggestion, so I don't know
whether to click on it or retype my query. As an example, say I
search for leather purses, and it comes out as 'leather pures.'
Google may then come back with a link which says 'Did you mean to
search for' - 'leather purses.'
'Leather purses' would be set apart as a link, however if I
interact with it, VO will only speak the first part of the link.
I.E. VO will only allow me to read up to 'leather' and not go any
further. So this unfortunately is a problem, especially when
there may only be subtle yet very important differences in
spelling that I may not be able to hear with speech, I.E. with
double letters in words or unfamiliar sounding names and such.
So the practical upshot is that I can't tell whether I should
click on the link or not, as I simply am stopped from reading all
of it. It can be especially difficult with longer sentences as
well…
anyway, I do hope you can address this, as it is also important
in many other situations as well, including being able to spell
out words in long links or select text. This does happen in
several situations, but I thought I'd point you to Google as I
can reproduce this quite consistently...
• Flash in Safari with VO doesn't show up at all…
Well, the above says it all! :) I know that Flash content
really must be made accessible by the developer to a degree,
however I also know that even if a flash element isn't labeled,
it does show up to Safari as being present, so that it can be
clicked on or interacted with via the browser. Vo itself, can
neither see the Flash elements nor access them in any way. So
it's as if Flash buttons or links just don't exist at all. So
what I'm wondering is, -can these elements that Safari already
can see, be shown to VO? I.E. even if the author of the Flash
content hasn't labeled their buttons or such, can VO at least let
the user know that a flash button, link, movie, or some other
Flash element is present on the page?… Can Safari make these
elements available to VO?…
This way, even if a visually impaired user doesn't know what a
Flash control does, they can at least click on it and find out.
And if it IS after-all, labeled properly by a Flash author, the
user would then be able to use the control...
I personally need this feature quite a lot, in my work, as the
sites that I frequent are really geared toward photogs / models
and have a lot of visual elements to them, including a lot of
Flash content. So I'll often need to be able to access a Flash
button or such, and regardless of whether I can read a buttons
label, I need to at least be able to click on it so that I can
access the content. Does this make sense?…
I do hope I've been clear enough and if not, please do feel free
to write me back with any questions and I'd be most happy to
clarify…
Have a terrific rest of your weekend and please do keep up the
fabulous work!!!…
Smiles,
Cara :) - MacBook 13.3 - 2.16 ghz intel - 1 gb ram - OS 10.5.1 -
latest ver of Safari
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