Fair enough then. I didn't realise that this has already come up. I knew office 8 wasn't doable but I put that down to lack of time or difficulties in porting to cocoa.
On 30 Apr 2008, at 17:46, David Poehlman wrote:

Jim,

You weren't around a short while ago when we laid this all out. Fortunately or unfortunately, in this case, it is Microsoft's responsibility as it is with office 8. Though there may have been testing, the business decision
could easily have swung the day the other way.

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Jolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Why Access Matters (was) Re: Microsoft Messenger for Mac 7
hasbeen released!


I see what your saying now but even so, its not a microsoft problem.
Surely there must be mac users testing? We can't keep blaming
companies for everything.On 30 Apr 2008, at 14:40, Josh de Lioncourt
wrote:


Whether there are alternatives or not is irrelevant.  The point is
that access to Microsoft products is a requirement for some users,
and a lack of access to those products will continue to be used by
the anti-Mac crowd to try to discredit the platform and its
viability for the blind.  And while we do have alternatives for the
MSN/Live Messenger services, I don't know of an accessible
alternative for the Microsoft Office Communications one.  If anyone
does know of one, please let us know.

And, while i personally would have little use for Microsoft
Messenger for Mac, that doesn't mean that others out there will
not.  I believe it is important to have as much access to as many
products as possible, and remember that there are others who live
outsid our own sphere with differing needs, desires, or
preferences.  Complacency when it comes to access helps no one.

Part of what makes the Mac and VoiceOver such a great thing is that
it gives blind computer users a choice besides Windows.  This is
true of various flavors of Gnome under Linux as well.  More chocies
for various types of applications will help strengthen and mature
the VoiceOver community and our Mac experience.  Stagnation is never
a good thing.

Josh de Lioncourt
Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt
Mac-cessibility Site: http://www.Lioncourt.com

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On 30 Apr, 2008, at 3:09 AM, James Jolley wrote:

Really, does it make any difference? we have alternatives.
Microsoft are hardly worth bothering with anyway, why do you think
we switched? I switched because Windows is a waist of time and I
wanted something more reliable.







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