Hi, I've been somewhat reluctant to add gs because the developer
assures me that at some point the minor problems that render it
slightly less than 100% accessible will be fixed, and some beta
software to that effect has come across my desk. So, I think they are
serious and would prefer to wait for the final implementation before
it goes into the list.
There are also some bugs in the list database which I'd meant to drop
Greg a note privately about but never got around to.
Best,
Erik
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On 20-Jun-08, at 8:26 AM, Esther wrote:
Hi Erik,
Since you mentioned Greg's list of third-party applications rated
by their
VoiceOver compatibility at:
http://w3.wmcnet.org/vo/index.php
you might add Garage Sale to that list, along with Grabber, Poster,
etc. There's a search function so that you can tell if a particular
software is included there, so that you can check whether it is
accessible or inaccessible.
Some widely used/discussed software is not in that database --
for example, Adium (which I don't use). Maybe somebody could
put in an entry for that, too, with some comments?
Also, I think Greg mentioned that the very latest Pages update
from Apple became accessible, but I haven't seen any further
discussion about this. (I might be in error, since usually somebody
follows up when an announcement of this sort is made, so
maybe I'm not remembering this correctly). Pages is the Mac
alternative offering to MS Word under Office, but is part of
iWorks 08 and has to be separately purchased. If I'm remembering
this correctly, it's only the latest update and not the version
as purchased in the iWork 08 distribution disk that might
be accessible (sort of like the way iTunes suddenly became
accessible in a minor version release). Anybody know more
about this?
Cheers,
Esther
On June 20, 2008, at 04:44AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
A month or two ago I downloaded and installed a very powerful third
party application called garage sale for creating ebay listings on
the
mac. It was about 98 per sent accessible and a joy to use.
I'm also using a fully accessible and fully featured cd burning
application called simply burns. I have a full suite of news group
tools including grabber, poster, and two varification tools. We have
access to two or three very high functioning bit torrent clients.
VMware fusion, the commercial grade OS management software is fully
accessible.
And I've only been on the mac now for four months. I'd recomend
bookmarking the mac third party accessible applications list at
http://w3.wmcnet.org/vo/index.php
and be very warie of blanket statements like "third party
applications aren't accessible".
It's too bad that not all third party applications are well designed,
particularly the microsoft office family for mac, but the Mozilla
foundation has demonstrated a serious commitment to accessibility on
windows and linux platforms and will eventually catch up on the mac.
Hope this helps,
Erik
erik burggraaf
On 20-Jun-08, at 6:09 AM, Hernandez, Jose wrote:
How can one get VoiceOver in Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) to work with
third
party applications such as Microsoft Office or Mozilla Firefox?
VoiceOver works great with integrated applications such as Safari or
TextEdit. The user is able to type words and/or characters in Safari
or
TextEdit and VoiceOver will read the words and/or characters to the
user. However, in third party applications, VoiceOver does not read
the
typed text. Any ideas? User would prefer not having to purchase
software
to add this capability.
What is VoiceOver? See information about VoiceOver at
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/.
Thanks !
Jose -
