Hi,

Just want to say good for you for not letting this one go - it is really
frustrating when people make inroads into accessibility and then don't
do joined up thinking - if the list can offer any support in terms of
petisions etc let me know I would be happy to sing

Julie
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: 21 July 2008 10:36
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby
theblind
Subject: Re: iTunes strange happening

Jude,

You're not alone my friend.

My mom's over paranoid and won't accept the terms for me.  She thinks
that just because it asks for a credit card number to put on file, that
means I'm autojatically gonna be charged.  I tolder no, that is not the
case, but she won't listen.  So, I dono what to do.  I don't have
Leopard, so I can't use back to my Mac, and have someone remote into the
system.  Mike's gf and I tried IChat, but my version in Tiger of IChat
doesn't seem to wanna let me add me.com addresses, but instead only .mac
addresses.  and AIM through IChat wouldn't let us do it.  Apple due to
quote:  legality reasons won't remote in and help me.  When I spoke with
an ITunes product store specialist, they said in there exact words:  The
law, is the law, is the law.  I asked them, when that part would be made
accessible, and they said, well, that's so minor of a thing, just get
over it, and get someone sighted, we could frankly care less to fix that
part.  the guy was extremely rude. 
When I threatened him with the ADA and told him, that by them not
wishing to provide access, was their right, but when they sit here and
say since I am blind, there is no reason for us people to use the ITunes
store when there are many other legal music download services that would
work...  I told him, o, so, you're refusing purposefully to help the
blind with things like this...  He then very directly, said that is
correct.  Why should we?  It's not worth us fixing it.  We got bigger
accessibility things to deal with to make you all happy.  It's almost
like he felt that we're doing them a burden by making things so
accessible.  Boy did that make me lose a lotta respect in them.  I
thought they were honestly doing it cause they wanted to.  Not because
they had to.  In any rate, I took this complaint to my local nfb
chapter, and I also took it to my local ACB chapter.  Both of which are
looking into this to see what we can do to fight this, and get that
stupid window to be vo ready, as both organization chapters down here
agree if they could make everything else work, then, this is stupid.
why couldn't they make this work.  I even told them, when he said, well
the way that window works if we made it work, voice over would jump to
it, but then vo up down left or right would then skip over all the
content inside of it.  I'm like, don't give me that BS.  Have you never
heard of interacting with an item? 
He's like, ok, so you bought a program that speaks to you what is on the
screen?  I'm like, no, I'm using voice over.  He's like, o, you talk to
your computer.  OK, well, you need to go to the company who makes voice
over so they can help you more.  I'm like, you! idiot?  You all! make
voice over. 
It's built into your opporating system.  This is why all you Apple
certified technitions know your products.  And why, you all clame to be
committed to accessibility, thus, know your accessibility products, or,
have folks there who for once, do.  O, I was piss'ss'ssed!

I dono, yall got any comments on this?

Chris.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jude DaShiell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:25 PM
Subject: iTunes strange happening


>I went to listen to an episode of the screenless switchers podcast
earlier 
>tonight.  First time I had tried that with this version of Itunes.  I
got 
>asked for credentials so gave the iTunes store my .mac address and
password 
>and was told those credentials had never been seen by the store before;

>then I was given the option to review my credentials or cancel so I hit
the 
>review button because I didn't want to cancel the listening session. 
>Strangely, my credentials and account did not appear on the screen
again, 
>but the screenless switchers podcast began to play.  I'm pretty certain
I 
>still don't have an iTunes account nor will I have one until someone
gets 
>through that captta for me but this was an interesting thing to have
had 
>happen.
>
>
> 



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