Good idea - we need to let them know when we are pleased or how do they know efforts are woreth it
Julie P.s. I am feeling very excited as I have just bought three whole albums from the i-tunes store - first for me and well ... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of UCLA Bruins Fan Sent: 11 September 2008 13:18 To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind Subject: Re: Response from Accessibility at Apple I absolutely agree. Lets also write apple and tell them how much we appreciate their efforts! On Sep 11, 2008, at 3:52 AM, RATTRAY J. wrote: > Hi, > > I am with you cara, accessible products should still look cool - > accessibility should be built in and not an add on that way you don't > have to make a statement about your disability based on the mobile you > have. > > I think that we have to be optemistic Apple is moving forward and > faster than many others - speech right out the box on computers and > new ipods is really pushing boundaries and we don't have any > indication that Apple will stop there so lets enjoy things and keep > possitive - that way developers will see efforts are worth it because > there products are being used. > > Julie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn > Sent: 11 September 2008 10:56 > To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X > by theblind > Subject: Re: Response from Accessibility at Apple > > > Will, lemme just start off by saying damn! lol! I mean Damn! - > Paranoid much?... <smile> > > sorry, but how on earth can you say with such certainty that access > to the IPhone will never come, firstly, considering what has just > happened in the last couple of days; and secondly, when there are > already touch screen devices out there with usable access?... What's > the deal?... > > Why are you so sure that this will never happen?... > > If you'd like to start feeling less down-trodden, one way to do that > is to take a more active role in your world. Also, a way of dealing > with people more constructively is to actually pose suggestions and > ideas rather than simply sitting back and coming up with ways to shoot > those ideas of others down. Would you like to have a positive spin in > your world, or a negative one? The choice is yours!... > > I Truly wish you / yours the best!... > > Have an awesome day!... > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > > > On Sep 11, 2008, at 1:20 AM, Will Lomas wrote: > >> hi they soon cater for the deaf with text services, what about us? >> all this equal access rights never gets implemented who are we >> kiding? >> let's be honest, apple are committed to acessibility that is clear >> and > >> evident yet they bring out a phone which works for all markets but >> the > >> blind and to be honest it probably never will as it is a touch screen >> and i don't wat to carry round keyboard and extra stuff to use a >> mobile phone >> >> On 11 Sep 2008, at 09:17, Scott Chesworth wrote: >> >>> Cara - my point exactly! Technology costs quite a bit still really, >>> and it's something that we have to rely on more than most. My >>> thinking has always been that if I've got to shell out for this >>> stuff, I at least want to enjoy using it and look good as a geek >>> hehe. What bugs me about all this though is that there is such a >>> thing as accidental access right? As in, code gets re-written and >>> ends up being accessible just because the programmer uses good >>> practices etc. >>> I'm pretty certain that's not what's happened here with iTunes, >>> which > >>> means that it's probably been on the list of things to do for a >>> while > >>> and they've eventually got to the point where the biggies have been >>> ironed out and they can spend a little time on it. That's fine, I'm >>> not expecting them realistically to prioritise a small-ish market >>> like us before time, I just wish someone could send me a copy of the >>> list of things to do each week lol. What I'm saying I guess is that >>> if I knew it was a similar situation with the iPhone, where Apple >>> have every intention of implimenting a solution they've already got >>> ideas for etc, I'd wait and keep up this fake friendship I've >>> developed with symbian, specially if I could check on us slowly >>> moving up the list every now and then. It's wishful thinking of >>> course... bummer. >>> >>> On 9/11/08, Cara Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Quoth Scott, I can't ever see Apple doing an overlay. Sticking >>>> something on a touch screen >>>> >>>> -to which I spake, <smile> Even if they did, I can't ever see me >>>> liking it! lol! >>>> >>>> I'm sorry people, but looks, style, and the cool factor are >>>> important to me. When technology and creativity are put together >>>> to > >>>> solve an issue without an air of compromise, the solution is >>>> wonderfully edgey and pure art!... >>>> >>>> Smiles, >>>> >>>> Cara :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: >>>> >>>>> Purely speculation of course, but I can't ever see Apple doing an >>>>> overlay. Sticking something on a touch screen just isn't slick >>>>> enough, it's even more clumsy than shoving an extra device in to >>>>> the bottom of your iPod ... just not Apple's style. My guess, if >>>>> it ever happens, is that it'll be a combo of some sort of feedback >>>>> via vibrations, and navigating with jestures that would simulate >>>>> something like hitting a VO-right and VO-left on a mac. Between >>>>> the two, it'd be pretty usable surely. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/10/08, Peter Apgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> I agree with this one but Don't hold your breath. For >>>>>> example,How > >>>>>> long did it take to make the hottest music download page to >>>>>> become > >>>>>> accessible? It will take almost this long if not longer with the >>>>>> lack of keyboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jessi >>>>>> Rathwell >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:58 PM >>>>>> To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>>>> OS X by theblind >>>>>> Subject: Re: Response from Accessibility at Apple >>>>>> >>>>>> yeah, that's what I was thinking too. lol On 10-Sep-08, at 11:35 >>>>>> AM, UCLA Bruins Fan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> huge difference between windows and Iphone, though. I want to >>>>>>> get away from windows and third party software when ever >>>>>>> possible, and if I can use an Iphone with out worrying about >>>>>>> installing things like Mobile speak, that is certainly the way I >>>>>>> will go. >>>>>>> Just my oppinion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Will Lomas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but it is extra to carry around you may as well all just buy a >>>>>>>> windows mobile phone with an integrated keyboard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2008, at 18:34, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> yeah, I was thinking one way to make the touch screen workable >>>>>>>>> would be to just ship a small bluetooth keyboard with it. >>>>>>>>> that's all we need, a keyboard, then we could totally use VO. >>>>>>>>> On 10-Sep-08, at 8:28 AM, David Poehlman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> true, but they would have to make the touch screen interface >>>>>>>>>> workable which shouldn't be too hard to do at least in a >>>>>>>>>> limitted way. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of >>>>>>>>>> Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:15 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Response from Accessibility at Apple >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, there are a few tactile buttons for volume, home, ring/ >>>>>>>>>> silent and sleep/wake. Everything else is through the touch >>>>>>>>>> screen. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe they will eventually just put VO on the iPhone. It >>>>>>>>>> supposedly is OSX under the hood. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Esther wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, they replied to me, too. Interesting the the iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> link > >>>>>>>>>>> on the new Accessibility page mentions tactile buttons. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2008, at 5:08 PM, Dan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>>>>> I just wanted you to know that I wrote an appreciation >>>>>>>>>>>> EMail > >>>>>>>>>>>> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and they responded. I really >>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate that as well as the fixes. >>>>>>>>>>>> They also mentioned a new Accessibility page, >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ >>>>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to the Accessibility page to see what's new. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> View my Online Portfolio at: >>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > >
