inflection cannot be changed through the voiceover utility, but everything 
else can.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty Rimpau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mac visionaries list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:51 PM
Subject: questions regarding the mac


Hello, my name is Marty, and I'm a new person on the list, and am
seriously thinking about the mac, because of the fact that voice over
is built in to the operating system, and I know I'm looking at this
thing through the eyes of windows, but I've tried writing a couple
people with no response, but I did get a friend of mine to put Edward
Alonzo's 98 everything mac on sendspace, but being so use to
window-eyes, I had some questions, so I'll paste the original message I
wrote to Edward and Holly late Saturday evening.
Hello, Edward, and Holly, I am a windows 98 se user, and am several
> versions behind with regard to my screen reader window-eyes, and for
> this reason, and because voice over was a part of the operating
> system,
> I am interested in the mac, but have some questions regarding the
> quick
> start tutorial.  Maybe this is unfair, for I am looking at this from a
> windows perspective, and I realyze that with the mac, you have to
> throw
> windows concepts out the window, but why are they having you worry
> about navigating complex tables, when you are new to the operating
> system, since one may not know voice over?  The screen reader meerly
> should be voicing what a sighted person sees on the screen, and I
> found, possibly, looking at this through the unfair lenses of windows,
> that it seems that a lot of options were left out, for example, why
> isn't there some type of smart table mode, where the screen reader
> reads the contents of the table as you down arrow through it, so that,
> if you have to interact with a button at the bottom of a table, you
> can
> do that, because, to me, interacting with a control, means, checking a
> check box, or radio button, not meerly the privilege of reading the
> information one needs to read, and if they started out with
> complicated
> tables, then, why didn't it take you to an imaginary web page, where
> with the safari browser, you could navigate links and such?  Is
> there a
> way to get in to the voice over control pannel to change inflection
> and
> such, or does one always have to access these options through the
> quick
> start tutorial?  Remember, I know nothing about the mac, and I
> appologize for looking at this thing from the unfair vantage point of
> windows, but seeing that I've never seen a mac, nor even an xp
> machine,
> I have only my limited knowledge to go on.  I think there should be
> some type of instant tutorial, available from anywhere within the mac
> environment, so that, if one has trouble navigating complex tables, he
> can be guided through the table by the tutorial.  I felt frustrated,
> hearing some of the tutorial, because I felt like, you weren't exactly
> describing what you were doing, though, I will say, thank you for
> doing
> this podcast, that a mac friend of mine downloaded, and put on
> sendspace, so I could hear it, and at least, now, when I go look at a
> mac, I'll have a much better concept of what to do, and how to
> approach
> things.  Is control option right and left arrow, the only way to move
> the cursor around, and can you use the right and left arrows by
> themselves to do things like spell a word?  Does voice over have a
> manual to read?  I think it is neat that the macs seem to be built
> much
> better than windows machines.  If the concepts behind the mac could be
> explained, rather than meer instructions for getting things done, then
> I think some of the frustration I felt could be dealt with, but I'm
> not
> upset at you guys, just one thing at a time, and let's not worry about
> complicated tables until we get there, but maybe future editions of
> quick start, will give you just what you need to know, and then you
> can
> learn, a little at a time, until you master the operating system.
> Thanks for reading this, but these were some questions I had, and one
> more, if you don't mind, if you only had to plug in the key board,
> mouse, and power cord, then, in a situation where a person was using a
> high speed connection, like I am, then, where does the ethernet cable
> go, because there was no mention of any ethernet connections for dsl
> or
> cable and such.  Once again, thanks for reading this, but I am curious
> about the mac.
>
> Marty
>
>






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