You're right in saying you'll have to toss out some of those windows concepts, and your worries with them. It's not that hard. I'm sighted and I can use the screen reader, granted not as well as the folks on this list or Felix, but I can get around on the programs and applications on the Mac and on the web, open and read pages, interact with tables, copy and paste, etc. The basics. And I don't have time nor patience to study any manual! I picked this up relatively quickly. And you'll pick it up even faster, and be helping me with stuff like everyone else in no time! :)
Don't worry, it's not hard at all! And you have a very rich resource for help from the folks on this list! Hope to hear from you soon. Call Felix! I understand you went to school together. Later, janet ---------------------------------------- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:51:32 -0700 > Subject: questions regarding the mac > > Hello, my name is Marty, and I'm a new person on the list, and am > seriously thinking about the mac, because of the fact that voice over > is built in to the operating system, and I know I'm looking at this > thing through the eyes of windows, but I've tried writing a couple > people with no response, but I did get a friend of mine to put Edward > Alonzo's 98 everything mac on sendspace, but being so use to > window-eyes, I had some questions, so I'll paste the original message I > wrote to Edward and Holly late Saturday evening. > Hello, Edward, and Holly, I am a windows 98 se user, and am several >> versions behind with regard to my screen reader window-eyes, and for >> this reason, and because voice over was a part of the operating >> system, >> I am interested in the mac, but have some questions regarding the >> quick >> start tutorial. Maybe this is unfair, for I am looking at this from a >> windows perspective, and I realyze that with the mac, you have to >> throw >> windows concepts out the window, but why are they having you worry >> about navigating complex tables, when you are new to the operating >> system, since one may not know voice over? The screen reader meerly >> should be voicing what a sighted person sees on the screen, and I >> found, possibly, looking at this through the unfair lenses of windows, >> that it seems that a lot of options were left out, for example, why >> isn't there some type of smart table mode, where the screen reader >> reads the contents of the table as you down arrow through it, so that, >> if you have to interact with a button at the bottom of a table, you >> can >> do that, because, to me, interacting with a control, means, checking a >> check box, or radio button, not meerly the privilege of reading the >> information one needs to read, and if they started out with >> complicated >> tables, then, why didn't it take you to an imaginary web page, where >> with the safari browser, you could navigate links and such? Is >> there a >> way to get in to the voice over control pannel to change inflection >> and >> such, or does one always have to access these options through the >> quick >> start tutorial? Remember, I know nothing about the mac, and I >> appologize for looking at this thing from the unfair vantage point of >> windows, but seeing that I've never seen a mac, nor even an xp >> machine, >> I have only my limited knowledge to go on. I think there should be >> some type of instant tutorial, available from anywhere within the mac >> environment, so that, if one has trouble navigating complex tables, he >> can be guided through the table by the tutorial. I felt frustrated, >> hearing some of the tutorial, because I felt like, you weren't exactly >> describing what you were doing, though, I will say, thank you for >> doing >> this podcast, that a mac friend of mine downloaded, and put on >> sendspace, so I could hear it, and at least, now, when I go look at a >> mac, I'll have a much better concept of what to do, and how to >> approach >> things. Is control option right and left arrow, the only way to move >> the cursor around, and can you use the right and left arrows by >> themselves to do things like spell a word? Does voice over have a >> manual to read? I think it is neat that the macs seem to be built >> much >> better than windows machines. If the concepts behind the mac could be >> explained, rather than meer instructions for getting things done, then >> I think some of the frustration I felt could be dealt with, but I'm >> not >> upset at you guys, just one thing at a time, and let's not worry about >> complicated tables until we get there, but maybe future editions of >> quick start, will give you just what you need to know, and then you >> can >> learn, a little at a time, until you master the operating system. >> Thanks for reading this, but these were some questions I had, and one >> more, if you don't mind, if you only had to plug in the key board, >> mouse, and power cord, then, in a situation where a person was using a >> high speed connection, like I am, then, where does the ethernet cable >> go, because there was no mention of any ethernet connections for dsl >> or >> cable and such. Once again, thanks for reading this, but I am curious >> about the mac. >> >> Marty >> >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/
