i am trying to find a demo of the i pod nano talking french
is that on you tube did you say ester?

On 3 Oct 2008, at 21:14, Esther wrote:

Hi Chris,

Here's a link to the mail archive post I sent yesterday about the 4G setup:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg43300.html

I can search the mail-archve faster than I can search my email inbox. I keep a link to the Mail Archives posts:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/

Actually, I used the "Weblocmaker" freeware to make a web link to these archives.

In the case of the first link, I tabbed when I went to the archives page and typed:

"nano 4G language gotchas"

without the quotation marks, then pressed enter and was taken directly to the web page with the post.

The "Weblocmaker" post was in reply to one of your questions, Chris, but to get to that post at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg42602.html

I entered "weblocmaker Leopard" at the search entry box you tab to, pressed return, and did a VO-right to the
link for the first of 3 results that came up.

There are obviously other search term combinations you can use and it helps that I typed these particular posts. But I use this all the time, and I'm giving you actual examples of what I type and what comes up. It takes far longer to type out these instructions than it does to run the searches.

Furthermore, if you're using Safari (regular Safari and not the Webkit nightly builds), you can use their access keys to navigate to and read the posts related to these messages. Control-N lets me read the next post in the thread, which is your reply, Chris, in the case of the Weblocmaker post. Control-P lets me read the previous post in the thread, and I can quickly go back and forth to trace out the earlier discussion.

This functionality also worked in the Webkit nightly builds up to a few weeks ago. I filed a bug report with "bugzilla" about the Webkit builds, because someone changed the access key combination to "Control-Option" instead of "Control" -- and that puts the access key sequence directly in conflict with VoiceOver's main keys. "Control-I" to get an indexed list of all current Mail Archive posts ordered by date now maps to the item chooser menu. "Control-F", to search post forward in time by date (with counterpart "Control-B" to search back in time by date) now maps to "Control-Option-F", which is a find command. "Control-C" which lists the posts by content order (threaded mode -- the default when you read the page), maps to "Control-Option-C" which inspects the character, etc.

Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 3, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:

David, I'm not the best at searching the list archives. I'd be more than willing to r t f m if you could give me a link to the archived msg. Sorry, my e-mail is doing something weird, so I lost a lotta mail the past few days that has come in.

Sorry about that.

Chris.


----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: IPod Nano Question


It is farily easy to do the steps were posted yesterday and a while back by
ester but I don't have them in front of me.
I would try to duplicate them but don't know if they apply now since mine is
already set up.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: IPod Nano Question


Ewww, is that fairly easy to do?  I mean, setting the language?

Chris.


----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: IPod Nano Question


For vo users, the nano will be speech enabled by default. The problem
comes
in that you have to set the language before you hook it to the computer.

The plastic box it comes in is easy to open, you just remove the tape from one end and the other end has tape that acts as a hinge. no distruction
of
packing necessary.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
To: "Mac Visionaries" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: IPod Nano Question


Hey guys,

I have a few real quick questions. I'm gonna be getting the IPod 8 gig
Nano
with the speech today. I'm sitting here now waiting on Fedex. It's apparently on the truck for delivery. In any rate, I'm curious: Will I have to enable the speech, as I seem to remember someone saying that you
do,
however, a friend of mine, is now telling me no, it's enabled by default, so, I was just wanting a little clarification. Also, does this thing come with ear buts? Finally, is the packaging quite easy to get into? It's
not
a stupid plastic blister pack, that you gotta break into with either
scissors or a knife, I hope.

Chris.















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