chears esther, very helpfull. I kno this is going slightly ot, but do you think apple will ever open up the ipod nano as a development platform? I've never programmed under apple but I think that some great accessable games could be made in conjunction with the exceleromitor.
On 04/10/2008, Esther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ben, > > The quick answer is that just about every function that you'd want to > hear speaking works on the iPod Nano 4G. The Extras menu items (where > you use the iPod to play games, access it for contact lists, calendar > functions, stop watch, alarm clocks, or to read text notes aren't > accessible. Under the Settings menu you can't interactively custom > configure your menus -- that means you can't decide to delete certain > items, or move them up to the main menu level, etc. or do anything non- > standard about shifting where items appear. But all the standard > items that you need to speak, will speak, and they work just fine > under the default organization that most people will be using. anyway. > > It's much easier to have discussions over the few bits that aren't > accessible. or which are partially accessible, which is why you've > seen snippets in the recent discussion -- the basic premise is that > most things just work. The items in the shaded areas of mostly > working have to do with dynamically updating items. You can't > interactively adjust the equalizer the way you can in iTunes, but you > can access and apply a large number of equalizer presets that give you > most of this functionality. This is also why you can't get a report > on battery level status, except as status alerts like "Charging", > "Charged", and "Low Battery" warning. That's probably a more > significant issue. There's a "Cover Flow" mode, where you tilt your > iPod to hold it horizontally, where menu reports aren't spoken. > Instead, if you scroll the wheel, visual images of the covers of album > appear in the screen, and pressing the selection key (the center of > wheel) chooses that album or flips it to visually display available > songs for selection. This mode might be usable for low-vision users, > but not for blind users. Locking the iPod when you are holding it in > the normal, upright position will keep it from going into Cover Flow > mode, but you will have to unlock the iPod (by pushing the lock switch > at the top left of the Nano towards the left to unlock, to the right > to lock) to enter new commands. > > The only inaccessible menu item on the Music menu is the "Search" menu > at the bottom that lets you input names of songs by choosing letters > "A-Z" with the scroll wheel to find songs and selecting them by > pressing the center of the wheel. You'll only hear 26 clicks! > > Here are links to two posts in the archives that cover most of the > accessibility issues in the menus (rather exhaustively, so it's > actually easier to use the above summary). They were under the thread > "Accessibility summar of Nano 4G menus: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg42108.html > (original post) > > http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg43186.html > (recent report of a few new features and replies to some questions) > > Another post that gives the link to the Nano 4G user manual and > describes how the Nano 4G is used in practice: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg42045.html > > You can also listen to the MacWorld Video podcast on the 4G Nano with > spoken menus from the iTunes Store: > > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=207054170 > > and look for the September 19 episode where Don Frakes demonstrates > the accessibility features of the 4G Nano > > or go the MacWorld RSS feed at: > > feed://www.macworld.com/weblogs/mwvodcast.rss > if you have difficulty getting the podcast from the iTunes Store > if the iTunes Store address doesn't work for you > > And again, the Nano 4g guide is at > > http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iPod_nano_4th_gen_UserGuide.pdf > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 12:50 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > >> Hay, I also have a question if anyone has the time to answer. >> I'm pretty much disided on getting the 16gb nano, but would someone be >> able to tell me exactly what doesn't talk and what functionalitty we >> loos out on by not being able to use the non talking items? >> I've searched the list and I can't seem to find a complete list, just >> snippits of info that people have mensioned. >> Chears. >> >> On 03/10/2008, Esther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Will, >>> >>> The iPod nano 4G speaking in French is at: >>> >>> http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1d2fFlTqk >>> >>> I just did a search at the Mail Archive link by entering the terms: >>> >>> from:"Anne" YouTube nano >>> >>> when I tabbed to the search field, and her post giving the link >>> popped >>> up as soon as I pressed return. >>> >>> If you want to transform this into a .m4v movie that you can put onto >>> your iPod try using TubeTv: >>> >>> http://www.chimoosoft.com/products/tubetv/ >>> >>> You need to grab Perian to extend the formats that QuickTime player >>> will recognize, but you don't actually have to run anything or learn >>> about using Perian (which can access flash content from YouTube and >>> new sites like CNN). TubeTV will turn the YouTube video that Anne >>> linked into a 11.7 MB video file that you can add to iTunes as a >>> movie >>> and put onto the Nano and play. This is all accessible. I don't >>> usually do stuff with YouTube so probably other list users can give >>> you more feedback about these kinds of imports. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Oct 3, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Will Lomas wrote: >>>> i am trying to find a demo of the i pod nano talking french >>>> is that on you tube did you say ester? >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards, BEN. >> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) >> > > -- Kind regards, BEN. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
