hi oh so i cant have the OS in multiple languages under different users?
i can only have one language?
On 11 Nov 2008, at 21:55, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I haven't, but this is what they told me from Apple.
Thanks for listening,
Alex,
On 11-Nov-08, at 1:23 PM, Will Lomas wrote:
have you got confirmation of this?
have you got your whole OS in a language other than english and do
you get spanish equivalents of bruce fred victoria etc?
On 11 Nov 2008, at 21:19, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
Yes,
Thanks for listening,
Alex,
On 11-Nov-08, at 1:11 PM, Will Lomas wrote:
hang on
are you saying that if you just install the french OS spanish
chinese etc. you will get synthesizers from apple in thos
languages/
On 11 Nov 2008, at 17:17, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
You misunderstand me, you actually need the whole OS, including
the bases system to be in those languages. Aparently you needed
to select that at install time, or maybe you needed to buy the
Spanish OS, but I'm not sure.
Thanks for listening,
Alex,
On 11-Nov-08, at 9:01 AM, Will Lomas wrote:
no i have my OS in french and spanish already under differing
users an i need infovox to read the languages
On 11 Nov 2008, at 17:00, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I think you have to install the localized OS to get it. They
have Spanish and French I think.
Thanks for listening,
Alex,
On 10-Nov-08, at 11:50 PM, Will Lomas wrote:
how can they have chinese if no voice is available
On 11 Nov 2008, at 01:22, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
anyway, Voiceover is natively in eight languages all
preinstalled with their respective OSs, and I think they
have traditional Chinese.
Thanks for listening,
Alex,
IVox has some, don't they?
On 10-Nov-08, at 10:54 AM, Will Lomas wrote:
nothing is available though for oriental languages like
japanese chinese and asian such as urdu etc. that i am
taking a liking too so i need eloquence really
On 10 Nov 2008, at 18:49, Tiffany D wrote:
Personally, I think Alex is the best synthesized voice
I've ever
heard, but he only knows English. Which company is
supposed to put
out that Greek synth this month? Is it acapella or
another one and
does anyone know if it's out yet?
On 10/11/2008, David Poehlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
I find the acapella voices on the mac to be ideal, they
are fast, stable and
comfortable to listen to.
----- Original Message -----
From: "erik burggraaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the
use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: eloquence
Well Chris, The original poster need a sertain language
which is
supported, apparently, by eloquence. That being the
case, you can't
blaim him for wanting to pin it down. Now here is my
opinion on
computer voices, and you can take it for what it's worth.
The purpose of a computer voice is to get me information
in as
effective a manner as possible. As such, it needs to
pronounce things
properly, and it needs to speak very, and I mean very
quickly. I have
alex set as fast as he will go, and he's not fast enough
for me. I
sit at computers all day and half the night, and when I'm
in my home I
have a minimum of two computers on at once. The longer I
have to wait
around to get information, the less time I have to do
anything with it.
All that being said, Eloquence is an infernal piece of
crap. It will
run fast and speak clearly, so even though it's a piece
of crap, I'll
still use it if that's what's on offer. It is after all,
a lot faster
and crisper than dek access32, even though all other
things being
equal, dek access is more stable. When you try to read
long blocks of
text with eloquence, the pitch decruments until you think
you're gonna
lose a couple of pc speakers, then it screems back up
again. If you
type symbles in a specific way you can crash the speech
out when it
tries to read them back. It doesn't pronounce things all
that much
better or worse than most other speech engines, but even
though dek
access32 and espeak are also infernal pieces of crap,
they are at
least incredibly stable and low overhead. There are some
pretty
comfortable espeak variants out now, and if the espeak
dll that comes
out with the next stable nvda has more accurate american
pronounciation, I'd be highly tempted to switch to get
the speed up.
When I want to read something for pleasure and the best I
can get is a
synthesizer, I tend to gravitate to acapella ryan who is
farely smooth
on my mobile phone at normal speaking speed, and who has
very good
inflection. The neo voices are passable as well, but I
can't take
them with me unless I convert the ebook to mp3. I never
do though.
MP3 drains my battery quickly, and ryan is just a bit
more naturally
inflected, so I'm content to use him.
For practical purposes though, give me a fast and stable
voice over a
nice sounding one any day, though I must agree with you,
alex is the
very best digital speech I've ever heard. In fact, I'm
pretty sure
he's as good as digital speech could ever be. The
realspeak voices
are horriffic. The technology is absolutely primitive,
and the
american woman jennifer sounds like she has a cold. The
ergonomic
benefit of them wouldn't justify a scrap of the computer
resources
required to run them, smiles.
Best,
erik burggraaf
Certified Technician
Assistive Computing LTD Support and training
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On 9-Nov-08, at 12:28 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
Frankly, I'm not gonna get a flame going here, I'm gonna
state my
opinion, but past that, I'm taking this off list.
I frankly love! Eloquence. Yall may find me strange for
sayiing
this, but I'll tell you what I cannot stand, and that is
ESpeak.
Nor can I stand the RealSpeak Solo voices. Now those!
things give
me a head ache.
Now, Alex, in Leopard? Now there's! a voice!
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the
use of Mac OS
Xby theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: eloquence
I looked at ibm via voice and ther is no tts I can find.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Jurgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the
use of Mac
OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: eloquence
Hi,
I think it is called Viavoice, and possibly is made by
IBM.
Thanks for listening,
Alex,
On 9-Nov-08, at 6:02 AM, Will Lomas wrote:
want it for chinese
On 9 Nov 2008, at 13:19, erik burggraaf wrote:
Why would you ever want such a thing? Except
possibly for language
support I can't imagine why any one would want
elloquence when
there is such a good array of digital speech.
Best,
erik burggraaf
Certified Technician
Assistive Computing LTD Support and training
Sales department: 888-828-2445
Support and Training: 888-255-5194
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website coming soon
On 9-Nov-08, at 4:50 AM, Will Lomas wrote:
hi can i get eloquence equivalent voices to work on
the mac?
i thought i heard they were available to maybe use
with voice
over?
regards will
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