I know they have chinese, I don't know if there is a voice for it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Lomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:50 AM Subject: Re: eloquence
how can they have chinese if no voice is available On 11 Nov 2008, at 01:22, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > Hi, > anyway, Voiceover is natively in eight languages all preinstalled > with their respective OSs, and I think they have traditional Chinese. > > Thanks for listening, > Alex, > > > IVox has some, don't they? > On 10-Nov-08, at 10:54 AM, Will Lomas wrote: > >> nothing is available though for oriental languages like japanese >> chinese and asian such as urdu etc. that i am taking a liking too >> so i need eloquence really >> >> On 10 Nov 2008, at 18:49, Tiffany D wrote: >> >>> Personally, I think Alex is the best synthesized voice I've ever >>> heard, but he only knows English. Which company is supposed to put >>> out that Greek synth this month? Is it acapella or another one and >>> does anyone know if it's out yet? >>> >>> On 10/11/2008, David Poehlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > wrote: >>>> I find the acapella voices on the mac to be ideal, they are fast, >>>> stable and >>>> comfortable to listen to. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "erik burggraaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>> OS X by >>>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:00 PM >>>> Subject: Re: eloquence >>>> >>>> >>>> Well Chris, The original poster need a sertain language which is >>>> supported, apparently, by eloquence. That being the case, you >>>> can't >>>> blaim him for wanting to pin it down. Now here is my opinion on >>>> computer voices, and you can take it for what it's worth. >>>> >>>> The purpose of a computer voice is to get me information in as >>>> effective a manner as possible. As such, it needs to pronounce >>>> things >>>> properly, and it needs to speak very, and I mean very quickly. I >>>> have >>>> alex set as fast as he will go, and he's not fast enough for me. I >>>> sit at computers all day and half the night, and when I'm in my >>>> home I >>>> have a minimum of two computers on at once. The longer I have to >>>> wait >>>> around to get information, the less time I have to do anything >>>> with it. >>>> >>>> All that being said, Eloquence is an infernal piece of crap. It >>>> will >>>> run fast and speak clearly, so even though it's a piece of crap, >>>> I'll >>>> still use it if that's what's on offer. It is after all, a lot >>>> faster >>>> and crisper than dek access32, even though all other things being >>>> equal, dek access is more stable. When you try to read long >>>> blocks of >>>> text with eloquence, the pitch decruments until you think you're >>>> gonna >>>> lose a couple of pc speakers, then it screems back up again. If >>>> you >>>> type symbles in a specific way you can crash the speech out when it >>>> tries to read them back. It doesn't pronounce things all that much >>>> better or worse than most other speech engines, but even though dek >>>> access32 and espeak are also infernal pieces of crap, they are at >>>> least incredibly stable and low overhead. There are some pretty >>>> comfortable espeak variants out now, and if the espeak dll that >>>> comes >>>> out with the next stable nvda has more accurate american >>>> pronounciation, I'd be highly tempted to switch to get the speed >>>> up. >>>> >>>> When I want to read something for pleasure and the best I can get >>>> is a >>>> synthesizer, I tend to gravitate to acapella ryan who is farely >>>> smooth >>>> on my mobile phone at normal speaking speed, and who has very good >>>> inflection. The neo voices are passable as well, but I can't take >>>> them with me unless I convert the ebook to mp3. I never do though. >>>> MP3 drains my battery quickly, and ryan is just a bit more >>>> naturally >>>> inflected, so I'm content to use him. >>>> >>>> For practical purposes though, give me a fast and stable voice >>>> over a >>>> nice sounding one any day, though I must agree with you, alex is >>>> the >>>> very best digital speech I've ever heard. In fact, I'm pretty sure >>>> he's as good as digital speech could ever be. The realspeak voices >>>> are horriffic. The technology is absolutely primitive, and the >>>> american woman jennifer sounds like she has a cold. The ergonomic >>>> benefit of them wouldn't justify a scrap of the computer resources >>>> required to run them, smiles. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> erik burggraaf >>>> >>>> Certified Technician >>>> Assistive Computing LTD Support and training >>>> Sales department: 888-828-2445 >>>> Support and Training: 888-255-5194 >>>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Website coming soon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9-Nov-08, at 12:28 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: >>>> >>>>> Frankly, I'm not gonna get a flame going here, I'm gonna state my >>>>> opinion, but past that, I'm taking this off list. >>>>> >>>>> I frankly love! Eloquence. Yall may find me strange for sayiing >>>>> this, but I'll tell you what I cannot stand, and that is ESpeak. >>>>> Nor can I stand the RealSpeak Solo voices. Now those! things give >>>>> me a head ache. >>>>> >>>>> Now, Alex, in Leopard? Now there's! a voice! >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of >>>>> Mac OS >>>>> Xby theblind" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:23 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: eloquence >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I looked at ibm via voice and ther is no tts I can find. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Jurgensen" >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>>>> OS X by >>>>>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:12 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: eloquence >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it is called Viavoice, and possibly is made by IBM. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for listening, >>>>>> Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9-Nov-08, at 6:02 AM, Will Lomas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> want it for chinese >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9 Nov 2008, at 13:19, erik burggraaf wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why would you ever want such a thing? Except possibly for >>>>>>>> language >>>>>>>> support I can't imagine why any one would want elloquence when >>>>>>>> there is such a good array of digital speech. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> erik burggraaf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Certified Technician >>>>>>>> Assistive Computing LTD Support and training >>>>>>>> Sales department: 888-828-2445 >>>>>>>> Support and Training: 888-255-5194 >>>>>>>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Website coming soon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9-Nov-08, at 4:50 AM, Will Lomas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hi can i get eloquence equivalent voices to work on the mac? >>>>>>>>> i thought i heard they were available to maybe use with voice >>>>>>>>> over? >>>>>>>>> regards will >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://tiffany.yourpassionconsultant.com >>> (Adults only. 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