Something I left out is that numpad commander is the best solution I
have
found to meet this need.
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From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: webkit
Dave,
the point I was trying to make is that when voiceover was being
developped,
one key was found to be problematic. take for instance, the window
eyes
approach, you have one key, I think it is either alt or control by
default,
you end up having to press this key twice to gets its jnormal
function.
Jaws usees the insert key on a keyboard that has one and this key
isn't used
for much of anything else so that at least is a better solution.
you can
remap either the window eyes key, the zoomtext keys or the jaws key,
but to
what? On a laptop, the jaws key defaults to the capslock key and
presents
the same issue of having to press it twice to get its normal
function.
I'm not opposed to remappable keys but just wonder how it would be
done
without having to sacrifice functionality or causing other issues.
comtrol option is rarely used for anything and it can usually be
gotten
around or fixed in apps where it is used so seems to be the best
approach.
If you have anumpad as has already been pointed out, you can use
single
numpad keys to perform most if not all vo functions.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: webkit
Hi Dave,
I'd use any suitable key as long as it was just 1 key rather than 2
smile.
But I like Jacobs idea of having commands configurable along with
the vo key
/ keys being able to be remapped. Mike's solution of the NumPad
commander
does help though.
-----Original Message-----
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Poehlman
Sent: Sunday, 16 November 2008 1:26 AM
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
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theblind
Subject: Re: webkit
think about this, what key would you use? we are not activating
screen
reader commands, we are using the "screen reader".
The virtual buffer in windows and I said so at the time is the
stupidest
thing I have ever seen in access technology and it is now coming
back to
haunt developers in a bit way.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:11 AM
Subject: RE: webkit
I truly think Voice-over should change the vo-keys to be vo-key. To
me it's
ridiculous to have to press two keys before you've even pressed
another key
making it 3 just to activate a screen reading command. Ah well, you
guys
have gotten use to other such stupidities before. So I guess I'll
have to
as well if I want to use the mac smile. Please don't flame me as I
still
love my mac pro smile. But I just hate having to press more keys
than I
should.
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Schmude
Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 11:04 AM
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Subject: Re: webkit
Hi Esther
Actually ,they do work, but there as been a change in the Webkit code
base. For access keys, you must now press ctrl+option and the letter.
Needless to say this is annoying as all get out, as it interferes
with
just about every Voiceover key combination around.
On Nov 14, 2008, at 19:58, Esther wrote:
Hi Mike,
Yes, if you start up WebKit it will look as though Safari is
running, except that things like VO-Shift-M on Web page links will
bring up the contextual menu and other such fixes. You really are
running Safari, but the underlying engine powering it has some
fixes. On the slightly negative side (for me), the access keys for
the Mail Archive site for this list at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
don't work under WebKit right now, so I can't use Control-I to shift
the list of posts to a set of links indexed by date, and Control-C
to shift the listing back to links ordered by content into threads.
(Or navigate through threads to read the next post with Control-n
and the previous post with Control-p; or use the analogous commands
of Control-f and Control-b to move forwards or back by date). This
went away in September, but the fix will appear in an upcoming
WebKit build. Until then, I fire up Safari to read and search the
Mailing List archives for this list, but use WebKit for most
everything else web-related.
Cheers,
Esther
On Nov 14, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
Hi everyone. I decided to give the latest nightly build of web kit
a try, one thing I noticed, when running the webkit application, it
shows as safari, and even calls itself safari 3.1, is safari still
loading but using the newer web kit engine instead? So far, it's
working really well.
