I have no problem with vo keys on all my laptops.  sometimes, I have to lock 
them but I find that even with a full keyboard this is the case.

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I have one problem with the VO keys and that is that on a laptop
keybord they are only on one side of the bottom row.  I find this a
huge inconvenience on all three OS' I use on here.

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On 14-Nov-08, at 9:15 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:

> Perhaps what would be best is to make the VO key, or keys, user-
> configurable. Come to think of it, all the commands should be user-
> configurable. I like the vo keys personally, as they stay out of the
> way of my application keys. But I can see how not everyone would,
> and I think providing a configuration option would solve both
> issues--I want the VO keys the way they are, you want to change
> them. We could have our cake and eat it too :).
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2008, at 00:11, David Truong wrote:
>
>> I truly think Voice-over should change the vo-keys to be vo-key.
>> To me it's
>> ridiculous to have to press two keys before you've even pressed
>> another key
>> making it 3 just to activate a screen reading command.  Ah well,
>> you guys
>> have gotten use to other such stupidities before.  So I guess I'll
>> have to
>> as well if I want to use the mac smile.  Please don't flame me as I
>> still
>> love my mac pro smile.  But I just hate having to press more keys
>> than I
>> should.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacob
>> Schmude
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 11:04 AM
>> To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
>> X by
>> theblind
>> Subject: Re: webkit
>>
>> Hi Esther
>> Actually ,they do work, but there as been a change in the Webkit code
>> base. For access keys, you must now press ctrl+option and the letter.
>> Needless to say this is annoying as all get out, as it interferes
>> with
>> just about every Voiceover key combination around.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2008, at 19:58, Esther wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Yes, if you start up WebKit it will look as though Safari is
>>> running, except that things like VO-Shift-M on Web page links will
>>> bring up the contextual menu and other such fixes.  You really are
>>> running Safari, but the underlying engine powering it has some
>>> fixes.  On the slightly negative side (for me), the access keys for
>>> the Mail Archive site for this list at:
>>>
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
>>>
>>> don't work under WebKit right now, so I can't use Control-I to shift
>>> the list of posts to a set of links indexed by date, and Control-C
>>> to shift the listing back to links ordered by content into threads.
>>> (Or navigate through threads to read the next post with Control-n
>>> and the previous post with Control-p; or use the analogous commands
>>> of Control-f and Control-b to move forwards or back by date).  This
>>> went away in September, but the fix will appear in an upcoming
>>> WebKit build.  Until then, I fire up Safari to read and search the
>>> Mailing List archives for this list, but use WebKit for most
>>> everything else web-related.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone. I decided to give the latest nightly build of web kit
>>>> a try, one thing I noticed, when running the webkit application, it
>>>> shows as safari, and even calls itself safari 3.1, is safari still
>>>> loading but using the newer web kit engine instead? So far, it's
>>>> working really well.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>





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