On Thursday 28 April 2005 07:28, M. Fioretti wrote:
> Interview by C. Einfeldt to Sun Microsystems evangelist Simon
> Phipps:

Thanks for noticing this article, Marco!  I included a link to the 
article about Java in OOo by Bruce Byfield, because I thought that 
his analysis was superb, even though I disagreed with his 
conclusion.  There is also a link in the article back to Marco 
Fioretti's 2005/3/28 thread about Bruce's article on Java in OOo.

I think that tensions around the proprietary nature of Java are 
unfortunate, for several reasons.  One is that I'm sure that Mono 
or GCJ will soon be a drop in replacement for Java for those who 
want it.  

Second, it seems that Java gives OOo a wider install base, provided 
that OOo can work without Java for most purposes, so that OOo will 
also be available for Sun skeptics.  

Third, Simon believes that Java just makes OOo development and 
deployment perform better, and I'm inclined to believe him.  

Fourth, I am not that bothered by Sun's desire to leverage OOo, if 
that is the case, by using OOo to be the leading edge of the wedge 
to crack the Microsoft Office monopoly.  If Sun senior management 
can't be convinced that supporting OOo pencil out, why would they 
continue to support OOo?  

Fifth, I really don't believe that there is any lock-in with Java in 
OOo.  Open source routes around lock-in, and I can't imagine that 
Sun wants to be another monopoly.  I also think that Sun genuinely 
wants to support coopetition in an open plains, as opposed to a 
corral, as Simon said in the interview.  GCJ and Mono probably will 
eventually provide Sun with competition for the Java functionality 
in OOo, and that competition will increase the performance and 
flexibility of OOo.  

Sixth, I think that we need the diversity that Sun brings to the 
table to compete with IBM, HP, and Novell, and of course Microsoft.

Seventh, I don't see anything wrong with OOo expressing some 
gratitude for Sun's financing of OOo.  We are independent of Sun, 
but our development would not be where it is today without Sun, let 
alone the fact that OOo would not exist if Sun hadn't open sourced 
it.  Open source projects should learn to work with corporations to 
incent them into deploying and financing FLOSS projects, IMHO.  

I also think that dissent is a good thing, and because we are 
independent, we can have members of our community who don't like 
Java and can be openly critical of Sun.  I think that a healthy bit 
of skepticism is good for a vital community.  I think that the fact 
that Simon Phipps took a risk and agreed to an interview is a sign 
that Sun can cope and in fact prosper in an environment of candid, 
open scrutiny.  Anyone who thinks that OOo is just a tool of Sun 
hasn't spent much time on this list.  So thanks for the interview, 
Simon! 

Christian Einfeldt
415-351-1300

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>         http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/62/4023.html
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> Ciao,
>       Marco F.

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