On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 23:12:51 PM +0100, CPHennessy
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Monday 25 July 2005 00:38, M. Fioretti wrote:
> >
> > May I friendly suggest, in YOUR interest, that you just stop cold
> > turkey running in this Guinea pig wheel for a couple of weeks,
> > and use that same time to ask for help directly to the procmail list
> > and/or some friend at the closest LUG?
>
> Thanks for your insighfulness Marco. If it was meant to encourage me
> to do something I'm really not sure. 

Of course it was meant to help.

> But making fun of me (and others) helping OOo novice users will not
> help you.

DISCLAIMER: Believe it or not, expecialy while reading the last part
of this message, I am *not* making fun of you. I am trying really hard
to help, politely suggesting what couldf be done.

I am not making fun of *you* personally or any other volunteers. I
never did. I do appreciate, sincerely, all your good will and
devotion, and have never doubted of it. What I do have great
difficulties to take seriously is only the method which you all insist
using. I'm trying to help you and OO.o to change that.

> I'm still waiting for you to ignore [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a few weeks to
> put a procmail solution together since you seem to know it so well.

See? (Answering also to others) *this* attitude is exactly why I have
never bothered, in the past, to work out and test the details. The
attitude going from lack of interest from else who could actually run
it, saving his own time, to the several variations of "*I* don't
understand one bit of what you suggested, so *you* must be a puffed up
moron".

Now let's be serious and practical, please. I have already explained
that since you are the one that should run it on your own Linux setup,
it would sensibly speed things up if *you* could spare a couple of
weeks from patroling the lists, and test/tweak the procmail
recipes. Yesterday I *did* subscribe to the procmail mailing list, to
ask for help from the gurus in that field.

So, CPH, I friendly but seriously suggest again:

1) You subscribe today to the procmail mailing list:
   http://mailman.rwth-aachen.de/mailman/listinfo/procmail, suspending
   OO.o service for a couple of weeks. The world won't come to an end.
2) I send the initial request to that list  for help, explaining the
   detail of the problem.
3) You test on your box what they suggest
4) I promise to help you directly for any "side" issue (initial
   installation and configuration of procmail, sending test messages,
   this kind of things)

I will do 2) by myself in any case, just for the fun of it, but doing
it together as above would be much more effective.

>Looking forward to you contributions,

Looking forward to any real sign of willingness from the OO.o
volunteers/list moderators to change the status quo.

So? What do you say? I am ready, are you?

CIao,
        Marco

-- 
Marco Fioretti                    mfioretti, at the server mclink.it
Fedora Core 3 for low memory      http://www.rule-project.org/

Those who will be able to conquer software will be able to conquer the
world.                      -- Tadahiro Sekimoto, president, NEC Corp.

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