Hi all,

The Institute did not explain further by what they mean in terms of "program
range names and secret IDs".  I've sent them a letter and I hope to hear
back from them by the end of this week.  Hopefully I can share the feedback
next week with you.

The version of OOo I am using is 2.0.2 and OS is Win XP.

One other odd thing I noticed is that when I saved the emailed file to my
hard drive, the original filename was ep1307395.xls, but when I clicked Save
Link (I use Firefox btw), the Save As dialog box showed up a longer
filename!  It said something like 1_multipart_fXXD9_ep1037395.xls.  I wonder
whether the password was displayed to me when I was saving the file (and I
didn't even know it) and why the heck did the filename change?

Anyways, thank you for all your help and feedback.  It's given me a few
other angles to argue my case.

I'll keep you posted.

Mabel


On 12/13/06, Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 20:40 +1100, Terry wrote:
>
>> Below is a request for help from a lady who risks being failed in a
>> professional exam because she used Calc to complete an Excel
spreadsheet.
>>
>> It seems that certain safeguards implanted by Excel were lost in the
>> process.
>>
>> Is there any way for her to escape this predicament?  She filed this
>> request with the Calc list and has also asked on the Calc forum.  I
have
>> asked on the users list whether there is some other avenue she might
try.
>>
>> This seems to be a trap about which potential users need to be warned.
>>
>>
>> Mabel Li wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> The feedback I received from the Institute is, and I quote is as
follows:
>>> (EP stands for Extension Project) ...
>>>
>>> "Your EP received a result of zero. The reason you received no marks
>>> is that
>>> we were specific in our FAQs for this EP and you have breached these
>>> requirements. For example, important fields such as program range
>>> names and
>>> secret IDs had been removed from your submitted Excel EP file, thus
>>> cannot
>>> be marked. Also candidates had been clearly advised not to copy any
>>> formulae
>>> from other worksheets or delete any formulae, field names or
>>> columns/rows in
>>> your workbooks as this would result in a zero result. I would again
>>> refer to
>>> you the FAQs for the EP."
>>> From reading the other threads regarding security, it appears that
>>> whatever
>>>
>>> security features that are embedded in Excel are removed once you open
>>> the
>>> file with Calc. Is this correct? If that is the case, how can I prove
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Thank you for assistance,
>>> Mabel Li
>
> I will agree with Paul's comments but I would also tell Mabel to respond
> with a copy of OOo and ask them to try the security features of their
> Excel spreadsheet in OOo themselves and see the results.
>
> I would also be inclined to look at the appeals process and learn as
> much as possible about the requirements.  If there was no mandate to use
> MS Office for the course then they shouldn't be able to enforce the
> usage of a MS Office product.  The software should also have been part
> of the course if it was mandatory.
>
> Depending on the type of "safeguards", they may be known weaknesses in
> Excel that can be referenced to in the appeal.  Such as the poor
> password and protection offered by Excel.
Thanks.  Those are valid points.  I doubt that the OS and software
version makes any difference.

This is another example of an organisation unwittingly acting as a
franchisee of M$.

It also, however, raises the need for OpenOffice to issue a caveat
against its use for official documents created by other software.


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