Hi Florian, this is a chicken and egg situation. Art would not be able to have strong leadership when it has been depending on marketing which lately have had gone through many changes on leadership itself.
You most know about it :) So the lack of leadership comes from the problem I explained earlier, art is good at attracting tallet but is really bad to retain this designers. This is mainly because of the lack of infrastructure to attend the designer. The list is full of first person presentation but there is no continuation. I have done a research on the last 6 months of the project and is hard to point out steady contributors. So I am not sure it makes much sense that we need to be big and active to become a project but rather we need an Art project period. The next task is making it good. IE, native lang will need contributions from art to improve the design of their websites which as you can see this goes from very appealing to very plain depending on the native-lang. Art could do something about it to have a better precense. This is something marketing doesn't do for the most part and webdev also doesn't support. Also we could make the group more appealing from 'inside research' getting ourself full of leadership from other native-language projects like the french, spanish and japanese which have people with strong art background who are not necesarily on marketing. Like I mention on the first email, most people in art acknowledge the lack of leadreship but they see that as a symptom of the lack of identity. Most leadership on art comes from the leader in marketing which also has to engage on other 6 subprojects. Take education project for example. On 7/22/07, Florian Effenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Alexandro, thanks for writing to the list, and sorry for not replying earlier to your messages on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been very busy lately... Your arguments are good, and I definitely think that having a strong separate arts project isn't a bad idea. It is correct that art shouldn't depend solely on marketing, and that art can make own projects and realize own ideas. Of course, there is and will always be a strong relationship between art and marketing. :-) So, from my point of view, I surely agree in having a separate arts project. As I wrote, however, what I think is essential is that we have strong supporters for that that actively enagage themselves in that project, and that we have people willing to take over "leadership". Having an art project for three people, just for the sake of it, doesn't make any sense. Then it is better to keep art within marketing. So we need people willing in actively contributing to the art project over a long period of time, just as we have in other projects as well. If that is given, you have my support for a separate art project, and then I'm sure it will sail, not sink, as you've written. :-) Florian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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