Twayne,
   Sorry to see you go.  Others on this list pose comments as complicated as 
yours, and I (mostly lurking here) learn from their questions and the responses 
from users more capable and  informed than I.  Frankly, although my usage is 
mostly fairly simple documents and spreadsheets, I have not found anything that 
Open Office does not do better for me than similar microsoft products ( which I 
used to use and have lots of files still in those formats.)
  I also see in 3.0 beta that some changes appear to incorporate features 
requested by various people on this list.  
   
  I hope to improve 3.0 beta by reporting that when I try to save a file it 
hangs, with the message that (open office writer is unresponsive.)  If I close 
the unresponsive program it will recover the file when next started, but again, 
I cannot save it.  I can cut from the 3.0 beta file and paste to 2.4 stable, 
which lives on this Vista machine, and wonder if I have made some error in 
installing 3.0.  Does 2.4 need to be uninstalled, perhaps?  Would reinstalling 
3.0 beta help or hurt?
   
  Best wishes,
   
  Carl

Twayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I am disappointed enough in the recent round of Issue closures and 
"won't fix" actions that you may ignore this original posting. I've 
tried hard to use OOo and wasted quite a bit of time trying to help, but 
I'm going to have to go back to MS Office and PDF Creator since it's the 
only reliable way of producing the files I need. Thus, I won't be using 
OOo enough to learn anything more of any value to anyone. A pretty good 
disappointing effort.

Best of luck to all, and Regards,

Twayne



> KUDOS off the top of my head and at first glance. The first two
> things I noticed that help an awful lot are:
> -- a Desktop Icon; I didn't have to fart around creating a new
> shortcut to open office. Con: I sort of wish it had been a folder
> with all the component icons in it, e.g. writer, calc, base, etc.,
> but this will do fine!
>
> -- Image Anchors; They are now more direct to access and no longer
> necessary to remember to go to Layout, Advanced to find them and set
> them.
>
> -- No improvement on the automagical movement of images within tables
> or interspersed throughout a large document, BUT ...
> BETA 3.0 shows these problem images to be anchored to "character",
> which is incorrect, BUT it explains some of the strange movements I
> see happening!
>
> Ver 2.4 shows them as vertically anchored to paragraph, as does Word,
> the original creator of these files. Where Version 3 BETA is showing
> them as anchored to a CHARACTER!
> Although 3.o seems to be in error, if 3.0 were CORRECT, it would
> much easier explain the odd movements of images, even why some of
> them leave a table cell, I think. The anchor seems to move from a
> character inside the table cell to a character not IN the table, thus
> moving the image out of the table. And in other cases, well, who
> knows what character the anchor might get moved to?
> Based on a Word file as the origin, and differing anchor info between
> 2.4 and 3.0, this would seem like a conversion problem more than
> anything else. To me, at least.
> Interestingly enough, when an image becomes anchored to a character,
> there is no anchor to show; this explains why I -thought- the anchor
> wasn't being displayed in some of the movements; it wasn't. I
> never anchor an image to a character so none of the character anchors
> originated with me; it has to be OOo. Word, BTW doesn't show an
> anchor if I manually anchor something to a character either, BTW. But 
> like I said, that's not something I do. I use either Page or,
> more often, Paragraph for the anchor, period.
> Also, when an image is anchored to a character, when you select it,
> it does not appear selected even though it is. The cursor remains in
> the paragraph you last had it in and the image never gets handles or
> any other indicators of being selected.
> I never knew you could anchor to a character until 3.0 showed me.
> Like I said, 2.4 doesn't indicate that; it indicates paragraph, but
> I'm suspecting it's the 2.4 anchor that's incorrectly determined and
> actually the anchors have been changed to characters, as 3.0 is now
> clealy showing.
> An easy way to see these differences is to open a problem file that
> demonstrates unplanned image movement in OOo, then open it once each
> in 2.4 and 3.0, put them all on the screen at once, and check them 
> out.
>
> I don't think I should be muddying up the Issue Reports with this sort
> of thing since it's so general and vague in nature: Perhaps someone
> here can make sense of it, duplicate it, and decide better how to
> phrase it for a good, inclusive Issue.
> My original Issue on this is 88989 .
>
> Q: Does OOo provide any mechanism that would allow me to search &
> replace 'anchors to character' to 'anchors to paragraph'? Don't think
> I've ever seen anything like that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Twayne





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