Twayne,
Sorry to see you go. Others on this list pose comments as
complicated as yours, and I (mostly lurking here) learn from their
questions and the responses from users more capable and informed
than I. Frankly, although my usage is mostly fairly simple documents
and spreadsheets, I have not found anything that Open Office does not
do better for me than similar microsoft products ( which I used to
use and have lots of files still in those formats.) I also see in 3.0
beta that some changes appear to incorporate features requested by
various people on this list.
Yup, I noticed a couple of real annoyances were taken care of in 3.0.
I didn't mean to make it sound like i was never going to visit the
group again; I definitely will but plan to go mostly lurker mode as I
watch OOo continue to develop. When 3 hits production release, I'll try
it again, for sure. It's just in the interim that MS Office does the
job OOo can't quite manage yet and I think they knee-jerked by not
looking closer at the issue I was trying to discuss. I'd really like to
bit-bin MS Office.
I hope to improve 3.0 beta by reporting that when I try to save a
file it hangs, with the message that (open office writer is
unresponsive.) If I close the unresponsive program it will recover
the file when next started, but again, I cannot save it. I can cut
from the 3.0 beta file and paste to 2.4 stable, which lives on this
Vista machine, and wonder if I have made some error in installing
3.0. Does 2.4 need to be uninstalled, perhaps? Would reinstalling
3.0 beta help or hurt?
Version 2.4 shouldn't matter to the issue at hand. Reinstalling might
be a good idea, plus, disconnect from the 'net and turn OFF your
Anti-Virus during the uninstall/reinstall, just in case that was getting
in the way.
You might also check the Hash for the download if you haven't
already; make certain what you have is an accurate copy of what's on the
server, or even download it again. I usually check Hash, crc, whatever
is available for downloads of that magnitude, and make certain my
Anti-Virus is turned off during the install. But do NOT forget to turn
it back ON before you go back on the 'net!!
I don't recall now for sure; didn't I see a Repair option in the OOo
Install window? Worth a try before going to more lengthy efforts.
Same goes for WinPatrol and software firewalls, or any 3rd party
scanning software you installed that might spot the install activity and
try to "protect" you from untoward changes to your system.
AFAIK though, there haven't been any problems with parallel installs of
2.4 and 3.0 BETA.
Best of luck,
Twayne
Best wishes,
Carl
Twayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am disappointed enough in the recent round of Issue closures and
"won't fix" actions that you may ignore this original posting. I've
tried hard to use OOo and wasted quite a bit of time trying to help,
but
I'm going to have to go back to MS Office and PDF Creator since it's
the
only reliable way of producing the files I need. Thus, I won't be
using
OOo enough to learn anything more of any value to anyone. A pretty
good
disappointing effort.
Best of luck to all, and Regards,
Twayne
KUDOS off the top of my head and at first glance. The first two
things I noticed that help an awful lot are:
-- a Desktop Icon; I didn't have to fart around creating a new
shortcut to open office. Con: I sort of wish it had been a folder
with all the component icons in it, e.g. writer, calc, base, etc.,
but this will do fine!
-- Image Anchors; They are now more direct to access and no longer
necessary to remember to go to Layout, Advanced to find them and set
them.
-- No improvement on the automagical movement of images within tables
or interspersed throughout a large document, BUT ...
BETA 3.0 shows these problem images to be anchored to "character",
which is incorrect, BUT it explains some of the strange movements I
see happening!
Ver 2.4 shows them as vertically anchored to paragraph, as does Word,
the original creator of these files. Where Version 3 BETA is showing
them as anchored to a CHARACTER!
Although 3.o seems to be in error, if 3.0 were CORRECT, it would
much easier explain the odd movements of images, even why some of
them leave a table cell, I think. The anchor seems to move from a
character inside the table cell to a character not IN the table, thus
moving the image out of the table. And in other cases, well, who
knows what character the anchor might get moved to?
Based on a Word file as the origin, and differing anchor info between
2.4 and 3.0, this would seem like a conversion problem more than
anything else. To me, at least.
Interestingly enough, when an image becomes anchored to a character,
there is no anchor to show; this explains why I -thought- the anchor
wasn't being displayed in some of the movements; it wasn't. I
never anchor an image to a character so none of the character anchors
originated with me; it has to be OOo. Word, BTW doesn't show an
anchor if I manually anchor something to a character either, BTW. But
like I said, that's not something I do. I use either Page or,
more often, Paragraph for the anchor, period.
Also, when an image is anchored to a character, when you select it,
it does not appear selected even though it is. The cursor remains in
the paragraph you last had it in and the image never gets handles or
any other indicators of being selected.
I never knew you could anchor to a character until 3.0 showed me.
Like I said, 2.4 doesn't indicate that; it indicates paragraph, but
I'm suspecting it's the 2.4 anchor that's incorrectly determined and
actually the anchors have been changed to characters, as 3.0 is now
clealy showing.
An easy way to see these differences is to open a problem file that
demonstrates unplanned image movement in OOo, then open it once each
in 2.4 and 3.0, put them all on the screen at once, and check them
out.
I don't think I should be muddying up the Issue Reports with this
sort of thing since it's so general and vague in nature: Perhaps
someone here can make sense of it, duplicate it, and decide better
how to phrase it for a good, inclusive Issue.
My original Issue on this is 88989 .
Q: Does OOo provide any mechanism that would allow me to search &
replace 'anchors to character' to 'anchors to paragraph'? Don't think
I've ever seen anything like that.
Regards,
Twayne
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