Hi Michael,
Michael Meeks schrieb:
- the mentioned metrics for the voter register is very unclear (and I
don't think, we would find a good metric that is fair for all parts of
the community)
Well; for developers it is clear
You mean code writers. Product development needs much more than code
writing.
- did they contribute a significant
amount of code in the last year: it is fairly easy to build these
metrics, indeed - they already existing internally to Sun I believe.
This sort of metric is the very basis of a meritocracy.
...
- CCR is elected by all Community members,
- NLs are elected by Native Lang leads (+NL cathegory lead),
- PLs are elected by Project Leads (accepted + incubator + resp.
cathegory leads - native lang)
What are PLs ? and why did we just re-entrench this,
pseudo-representative, pre-stuffed body of people who just happened to
be nominated "Project Leads" by some buddy in the past ;-) a more
ossified and inflexible mis-approximation for merit it is hard to see.
For a start, there are at least a few skilled Sun developers, who by
reason of chance, happenstance, or worse - being a key member of a
larger team are not Project Leads.
So maybe you need to think about structure of the projects first. For
the projects I've been involved in, Project Leads have been on a
meritocratic base. In some cases this does not work very well (as a
project lead has more duties just doing regular project work - so either
a project lead need to spend more time for OOo or she will have to
reduce other activites - like maybe code contribution).
But - and this is the point about project leads that I know: nobody
could become project lead (or stay project lead) for a long time, if she
does not represent the will of the project members.
This is why I would very strongly prefer a simple metric, or membership
process, tied to people's actual, concrete contribution of development
effort over the last time period.
So please provide this simple metric! And don't claim that "this might
exist already somewhere". Either we can point to such a metric that is
fair and acceptable - or we will discuss this issue some more months -
and won't change anything at the end (as people got bored about the issue).
Yes as you say - IMHO the Project Leads are an extremely poor proxy for
merit;
So the concept of the project leads seems to be plain wrong. But as said
- for the projects that I know, project lead is a very good proxy for
meritocracy.
There are other, simpler and fairer metrics to hand - to at least seed
a human-reviewed membership process.
Michael, please no more "there are other ...". Please name one (or
some) that would be fair and could easily be established without
delaying this once agian.
André
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