On Tue, May 19, 2009 13:54:50 PM +0200, Kristofer Åberg wrote:
> To M. Fioretti:
>
> I think it is very unnecessary to be this defensive and aggressive.
> ...
> So you mean no official people or developers read this list?

Kristofer,

the main link to this list in OpenOffice.org is at
http://support.openoffice.org/, only three lines below a big header
which says "Free Community support".

the list definition in the same page explicitly says "OpenOffice.org
Project community support provided by a network of hundreds of
experienced users"

the page http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html explicitly
says "If you're having problems with any of the lists, please contact
the list owner rather than posting your problem to the whole list".

Had you been an Internet novice, nobody would have made an issue of
this. Since you aren't a novice, I do admit that I was a bit annoyed
and surprised to see a **second** message showing that you had not
taken the time to find out who you really wanted to communicate with.
I hope this closes this part of the discussion.

Back to spambots now. For the record (I forgot to say it earlier,
sorry) I even agree with you that obfuscating email addresses in the
archives would make the list *look* more professional (even if I have
strong doubts on the effectiveness)

> Our web site is built with Joomla (another great open source
> project) which hides the e-mail addresses from spam bots - try
> shutting off your JavaScript when viewing the site and you will not
> be able to see the e-mail address.

I admit that I had completely forgotten the existence of Javascript
address obfuscators when I wrote my earlier reply. It doesn't change
much what I wrote, however. This is the piece of JavaScript in which
Joomla hides your email address inside
www.jansater.se/kristofer-aberg:

 var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to';
 var path = 'hr' + 'ef' + '=';
 var addy9506 = 'kristofer' + '@';
 addy9506 = addy9506 + 'jansater' + '.' + 'se';
 document.write( '<a ' + path + '\'' + prefix + ':' + addy9506 + '\'>' );
 document.write( addy9506 );

Your address is "hidden" in the 3rd and 4th line.

It took me 2 minutes to find it, and a couple more minutes to discover
online that this is a Joomla function which has been well documented
for years (http://help.joomla.org/content/view/515/125/) and is really
simple to reverse engineer: substitute to each &#NUMBER; string the
ASCII value of NUMBER, remove all the + signs and spaces, concatenate,
remove variable name...

So don't be so sure that Joomla is always successfully hiding your
email addresses. People with a monetary incentive to harvest addresses
probably cracked that plugin years ago. If you get more spam it's more
productive to upgrade your spam filters.

Best Regards,
     Marco Fioretti
-- 
Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how
software is used *around* you:            http://digifreedom.net/node/84

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