When I worked for a certain unnamed ghetto cellular provider, we were forced
to take RF Safety training. and we were issued badges similar to the ones
used in nuclear power plants.

 

Based on what we saw in the training, being up on a standard CDMA tower when
it was hot (i.e. violating lock-out/tag-out laws) you could get a
third-degree burn in a few seconds.  Not something I'd want to mess around
with, personally.  However, this was cooking along around 100W, which is
about 1,000 times more powerful than a decent access point will deliver.
This BTW, is based on 1900Mhz technology, which should result in about 2"
wavelengths, if my math is right.

 

And Matt - based upon some quick research, it appears that most microwave
ovens in the US run around 2450Mhz, which, as you said, results in a wave
approx. 4 inches in size.  So, unless you have a GAPING hole in your oven,
you should be relatively safe.  However, if you put a big antenna on your
cordless phone...

 

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Fanady
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:26 PM
To: SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List
Subject: Re: [SCFN] Cell phones and RF/microwave radiation are
identicallycarcinogenic and genotoxic

 

While I am by no means an expert on the subject, it is my understanding that
a microwave oven is always safe, unless there are large gaps.  Seeing as how
the wavelength of 2.4 GHz microwaves are measured in INCHES, there would
have to be a rather significantly gaping hole in a microwave in order to let
enough of these waves out to cause harm (or even significant interference).
This is why you can have a clear plastic window on the oven door, with only
the perforated metal screen between you and the radiation.  The waves are
simply too large to make it through these holes.  The rubber seal around the
door to the best of my knowledge performs no radiation containment function.

-M@

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, TomC <[email protected]> wrote:

Generally good thinking.  Commercial radio & TV radiating sources (antennas)
are dangerous and in most cases are fenced --  to protect you as well as
themselves. YES Radio and TV stations are licensed and one can assume are
safe to be around their antenna providing you are not violating posted
warnings and fences.  This is not the case in Mexico.  Also there are
game/entertainment devices that radiate low levels that are safe to hold and
use -- like that cell phone and Bluetooth are FCC approved as safe.  There
is some disagreement here regarding cell phones held close to the brain all
day long.

 

I worry about the radio frequency radiation I might be getting from my
microwave oven and do not stand close by. Ovens have gaskets that help but
also get old -- and are not monitored my anyone as to leakage.  There is
always leakage but the distance 1-2 feet is safe --when the oven is new.
These are high power devices and ironically it is the eyes that are hit by
high leakage if a malfunction should occur. One can buy cheap microwave
detectors to measure leakage. Also I would never buy a house under or less
than 300 feet from big tower high voltage power lines. This issue is open,

Good question.   

Tom  (I hold FCC radiotelephone license, many years in broadcast
transmitter/antenna business.)

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Matt Fanady <mailto:[email protected]>  

To: SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List
<mailto:[email protected]>  

Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:49 PM

Subject: Re: [SCFN] Cell phones and RF/microwave radiation are
identicallycarcinogenic and genotoxic

 

Its really only dangerous when you're up close, and even then, its not
dangerous as in "its going to give you cancer" dangerous, the most
vulnerable part of your body to high power high frequency RF is the cornea
of your eyes.  This is because RF generates heat when it comes into contact
with organic material, the same way a microwave oven generates heat.  The
cornea lacks sufficient blood flow to carry this heat away, so they are the
first thing to "cook".  But this is only true when you're very close to the
source, and even then, the risk is minimal.

-M@

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:34 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Bao.

The cellular equipment you found is an example of a major RF transmitting
facility under the jurisdiction of the FCC.
Typical facilities include radio and television broadcast stations,
satellite-earth stations, experimental radio stations and certain cellular,
PCS and paging facilities.

The warning sign you found helps define a keep-out area near the transmit
antennas such that unknowing persons are protected.

These facilities are required to undergo routine evaluation for RF
compliance whenever an application is submitted to the FCC for construction
or modification of a transmitting facility or renewal of a license. 
Failure to comply with the FCC's RF exposure guidelines could lead to the
preparation of a formal Environmental Assessment, possible Environmental
Impact Statement and eventual rejection of an application. 
Technical guidelines for evaluating compliance with the FCC RF safety
requirements can be found in the FCC's OET Bulletin 65.

In short, the keep-out areas provide a safe buffer away from strong
transmitters. 
The cell transmissions from different nearby basestations are not really
additive. They transmit in different bands, or on different channels within
those bands.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Brian C. Gallagher
RF Hardware Engineer
Vehicle WLAN Development


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