Ralph, That is not what I was implying at all. I'm sorry if you took it that way. If you read back through the emails you will see who said what.
Generally what I am trying to get at is that we all come from different places and opinions. That diversity is a strength not a weakness. Losing people from a teck list over political issues is kinda sad. Besides every time someone leaves the list, all of your Klout scores go down. ;-P Drew On Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:09 AM, "rwf" <[email protected]> wrote: Excuse me, but I did not ask anyone to unsubscribe. Is this what you are implying? “Take this off list” means just that- take this discussion someplace else. Whether someone decides to unsubscribe is their own decision and I certainly did not even mention the word. Ralph From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Drew Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:29 AM To: SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCFN] Casey- Stephen - Donald Wow, Look away for a minute or two and all hell breaks loose. You guys sound like congress. Turns out that Casey did infact, unsubscribe. As did a few others who were not involved in the discussion. I for one am sad to see any of them go. Not because of political views, but because they are members of this group and have knowledge to contribute. SoCalFreeNet.org needs as many voices as possible. I realize this has not been a busy list for awhile now, but having the a broad base of knowledge and opinion when questions arise, or help is needed is invaluable. Asking someone to keep the topics to the core of the list is fine. Telling others to unsubscribe is disrespectful and uncalled for. So please give other peoples view points the same respect you would want for your own. Thanks each of you for being a member of this list. Drew On Friday, October 28, 2011 6:26 PM, "rwf" <[email protected]> wrote: Casey, Stephen, Donald- Please take this OFF LIST Thank you. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Murphy Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 5:38 PM To: SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List Subject: Re: [SCFN] Occupy San Diego is organized and ready for the Friday Occupation of the Civic Center unsubscribe. Take the political talk some where else. It's three of you coo-coo-birds talking about a subject that is not for this list. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Donald Johnson <[1][email protected]> wrote: I have read enough to know that those running it are the so called progressive that decended from the communists that decended from the marxists. Funny how when one name turns out to be unwanted they change their name hoping to keep us from knowing who they are. Only Communists, Unions(which are communist led), and the Peace and Freedom groups (communists led also) are the only ones who use disruptive sit ins to show their true fealings. They always seem to want everything without working for it. If they can't control it they disrupt things until every one else gets so fed up with things they accept it to get rid of the disruptions. Just one obamanation after another till we end up with an obamanation in the White House. They try to control speach by declaring that certain types of speach is "Politicaly Incorrect" when all it doed is tell the truth. But all this does is further their agenda by making it hard to say the truth without "hurting" others (they mean themselves). And they use the politicaly incorrect speach themselves anyway since they seem to think they are immune. They hide their true agenda (to take over the world) by making us think they are peace lovers and of cource "peace lovers" don't need guns (which are needed to defend ourselves from those like them) so they back the anti gun lobby. Once we cannot have guns then they (the UN) will just walk in and we won't be able to stop them. --- On Fri, 10/28/11, Casey Robertson <[2][email protected]> wrote: From: Casey Robertson <[3][email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCFN] Occupy San Diego is organized and ready for the Friday Occupation of the Civic Center To: "SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List" <[4][email protected]> Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 11:36 AM Did you actually read it? From: [5][email protected] [mailto:[6][email protected]] On Behalf Of Donald Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:28 PM To: SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List Subject: Re: [SCFN] Occupy San Diego is organized and ready for the Friday Occupation of the Civic Center I do not need to read communist manifesto's --- On Wed, 10/26/11, Stephen Gornick <FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sgornick@digico ast.com'. Original text='[email protected]'. For more information on phishing click here.> wrote: From: Stephen Gornick <FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sgornick@digico ast.com'. Original text='[email protected]'. For more information on phishing click here.> Subject: Re: [SCFN] Occupy San Diego is organized and ready for the Friday Occupation of the Civic Center To: "SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List" <[7][email protected]> Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 9:23 PM Donald, On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Donald Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: And why would we want to help a punch of communists destroy our banking system.When they get done with that then they will do their best to destroy our government. The banking system destroyed itself. Here might be some decent reading to help you understand why #Occupy is happening. [8]http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/owss-beef- wall-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025 or this: [9]http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/152811 But this is a tech maillist and not for politics, I suspect. I came down from #OccupyLA where I and other volunteers set up WiFi for that occupation and earlier this week I participated in #Occupy San Diego. #Occupy L.A.'s deployment is the third of the Free Network Foundation's FreedomTower ( photo: [10]http://imgur.com/fna52 ). #Occupy Wall Street NYC and #Occupy ATX (Austin) are the first two deployments. (L.A.'s is currently just the access point + 4G, no mesh or connection to FreedomLink WAN yet). From a recent blog post: The Free Network Foundation is an organization whose purpose is to steward the creation of a censorship-proof, disruption-resistant, global peer-to-peer network which is fully owned and operated by its participants. They managed to get two prototype FreedomTowers up and running in time for Contact – one at Occupy Austin, the other here at Occupy Wall Street in Liberty Square. The towers are providing Internet access to the occupiers, and will be used to establish an occupation-to-occupation Virtual Private Network. Next steps for the FNF, according to its founder, Isaac Wilder, include continuing to build out their burgeoning Wide Area Network, applying to the American Registry for Internet Numbers for status as an Autonomous System, iterating and improving the design of FreedomTowers, and working with the FreedomBox project to build FreedomNode, a mesh-enabled FreedomBox capable of opportunistically engaging in communications that are materially peer-to-peer. - [11]http://emergentbydesign.com/2011/10/25/what-the-contact-co nference-was-really-about The FNF is co-founded by Charles Wyble, formerly of Los Angeles and currently living in Austin. Charles had been active throughout the Southern California tech scene until he moved earlier this year. I myself had many years ago been on a rooftop deploying SCFN (Golden Hills area / Pink Palace or something to that effect, IIRC). [12]http://www.freenetworkfoundation.org I would encourage #OccupySD to consider asking that wifi deployment be compatible the FNF's approach and hopefully #Occupy SD will be home for the first FreedomTower deployed in the San Diego area. Having the ability to easily get to where communications between occupations are encrypted on the WAN will likely be important going forward. I suppose getting agreement on this involves making a proposal during the General Assembly, perhaps even an #OccupySD technology team formed for this? I spoke with an #Occupy SD team member Eden who had a honda generator though it was unknown if operating that onsite would be allowed. He suggested running it in the back of a truck on the street and extending an extension cord for the P.A. system. Previously there had been a solar panel and battery powering the P.A. system but that solar equipment hasn't been seen since the police action ten days ago. I couldn't find anyone who knew if that solar equipment was among the items confiscated, if it was a loaned item that was no longer available or why it was no longer used. In L.A., the solar power is provided by Power Of Green LLC which has staff onsite in L.A., occupying. They also provide training classes to other occupiers on how to build a portable solar panel/battery/inverter system. Solar is one component of the organization's sustainable living offerings. The #OccupyLA Media team also runs their own solar grid and uses generators as well to power their production systems. These are occasionally tapped for the FreedomTower there in L.A. as well. The FreedomTower specs include a modified Ubiquiti firmware that includes OLSR (for mesh). > I remember the San Diego Fires and the Qualcomm network activation by the Socalfreenet. If you already have a solution ready to deploy, then don't let anything I've said slow you down in mobilizing. But please do take a look at the FNF's stuff: - [13]http://freenetworkfoundation.org/?page_id=94 - [14]http://freenetworkfoundation.org/?p=422 - [15]http://thefnf.org:9001/ro/r.lug5aGlhVVAlXMIm Thoughts? Should anyone wish to reach me directly, my phone number is [16]310-356-9912. - Stephen Gornick [email protected] [17]+1.310.356.9912 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: [18]http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet .org -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: [19]http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet .org _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: [20]http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet .org -- -- Jason Murphy [21][email protected] _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/dis cuss_socalfreenet.org _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/dis cuss_socalfreenet.org References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. mailto:[email protected] 7. http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] 8. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/owss-beef-wall-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025 9. http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/152811/the_shocking,_graphic_data_that_shows_exactly_what_motivates_the_occupy_movement_ 10. http://imgur.com/fna52 11. http://emergentbydesign.com/2011/10/25/what-the-contact-conference-was-really-about 12. http://www.freenetworkfoundation.org/ 13. http://freenetworkfoundation.org/?page_id=94 14. http://freenetworkfoundation.org/?p=422 15. http://thefnf.org:9001/ro/r.lug5aGlhVVAlXMIm 16. tel:310-356-9912 17. tel:%2B1.310.356.9912 18. http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org 19. http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org 20. http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org 21. mailto:[email protected]
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