Yeah, I have to agree with Torrie on this. A forum you have to remember to
go to. The mailing list comes right into your inbox.
On Aug 11, 2013 10:44 PM, "Torrie Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sunday, August 11, 2013 05:18:31 PM a l wrote:
> > It seems to me that becoming more specialized in topics might be better
> > suited to a dedicated Syn/hak forum. I realize that this presents a
> number
> > of issues in terms of server space and anti-spam software but I feel that
> > if we go this wide topic discussion route were out growing the mailing
> list
> > communication model.
> >
> > Since my technical know how it's lacking in this area,sys admins feel few
> > to tell me a forum isn't with the time investment. Or perhaps we should
> do
> > a 6 month list Serv trial to gauge interest
>
> If someone asks to have forums on the website, I'd be happy to help them
> set
> one up. Personally, I'm a fan of mailing lists instead of forums. They
> don't
> need a webbrowser to participate, you don't need to signup to send mail to
> the
> list, and it has its own builtin mechanism for figuring out if anyone
> replied
> to your post and when anyone posts something new.
>
> I'd also probably never check them because that would be another
> communication
> channel I'd have to follow and keep secure.
>
> >
> > On Aug 9, 2013 4:29 PM, "Torrie Fischer" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > Hello, friends!
> > >
> > > I'm unsticking the mailman lists because the setup was stupid and
> broken
> > > and I
> > > think we need more moderators and the possibility to dish out lists to
> > > members
> > > who want to run one. Previously:
> > >
> > > * sysadmin@ was the main sysadmin list for everything, including
> security
> > > sensitive bits
> > > * sysadmin@ was the owner address for all of the other lists (board,
> > > discuss,
> > > members, etc)
> > > * When spam got caught in a list, a notification went to sysadmin@
> > > * synhak sysadmins were subscribed and listed as admins for sysadmin@
> > > * Spam notifications would get moderated at [email protected] for
> being
> > > too
> > > large or appearing spammy (you don't say!)
> > > * I'd end up getting one mail saying something was caught in the
> sysadmin
> > > moderation queue, a second one if I approved it saying something was
> > > caught in
> > > the discuss queue, and a third when the rejection from sysadmin@ would
> > > bounce
> > > back to sysadmin-owner.
> > >
> > > Additionally, another issue I thought about from a discussion with
> Persa a
> > > while ago:
> > >
> > > * If someone else wanted to own a list, we sysadmins would end up
> getting
> > > all
> > > their moderation spam crap even though we don't moderate the list
> > >
> > > Thats no fun 8(
> > >
> > > So here's what I'm changing:
> > >
> > > * Making [email protected] the list owner for synhak's own lists
> > > (discuss@,
> > > board@, etc)
> > > * If someone wants to create their own list, they are set as the owner.
> > > Only
> > > synhak's lists should be managed by the synhak admins
> > > * If someone else (including a sysadmin) wants to moderate a list,
> thats
> > > up to
> > > the owner (who has the power to change it)
> > > * Only members can be list owners, but anyone can be a moderator since
> its
> > > not
> > > synhak, inc's list
> > > * Sysadmins don't have to think about managing other stuff unless it
> > > somehow
> > > impacts our systems
> > >
> > > Heres why this is an Excellent thing:
> > >
> > > * I got really tired of the firehose of emails sysadmin@ turned into
> which
> > > means someone else in the future would also tune out important sysadmin
> > > mails
> > > that get lost in the noise.
> > > * We need more moderators and it was never really clear that the
> community
> > > mailing lists were a community-ran resource
> > > * There is no reason why this community discussion platform shouldn't
> be
> > > allowed to be used by others who want to anchor a community at SYNHAK.
> > > * I think it would be pretty excellent to have a boardgamingnight@,
> > > monthly-
> > > lan@, homebrewing@, mini-maker-faire@ or whatever list
> > > * People outside of membership (i.e. the full SYNHAK community) might
> only
> > > be
> > > really interested in the machine-shop@ list and not care to hear about
> > > inane
> > > drivel from discuss@
> > >
> > > Thoughts? Applications to help moderate discuss@ and announce@?
> Please? 8)
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Discuss mailing list
> > > [email protected]
> > > http://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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