Honestly, I didn't really like Ben's reply. Attacking Mary directly isn't really necessary. She did do research and had sources which is responsible journalism. They just turn out not to be very good. That's not completely her fault and attacking her is bad form. I mention her source, but in doing so I also can understand where they are coming from. She went to a tech recruiter and he just voice the same old stuff that many people say about CF without really knowning the topic. In conclusion, their prespective isn't very good and top 10 lists are by their very natural unreliable. It's not that big of a deal. John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] shocking... Forta's attacked this one already http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/5/25/Todays-Irresponsible-Journalis m-Award-Goes-To-Mary-Brandel <http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/5/25/Todays-Irresponsible-Journali sm-Award-Goes-To-Mary-Brandel> DK On 6/25/07, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not every technology is on the top 10 "up and coming" technologies either. Things come and go. I have a prediction. Given the development that Adobe and New Atlanta are doing to CF. And if Adobe actually throws some real marketing dollars behind the it. I bet in the next 3-5 years it will be a "hot" technology again. The person they were using as a source for the article was David Foote ( <http://www.footepartners.com/> http://www.footepartners.com/) who appears to be a recruiter. Now nothing against recruiters but in terms of technology and trends. Their eye sight is usually very short. It really has to be, they have to fit the market as it is now. Not how it will be down the road. As an example, they have non-IP networks listed as number 2 which on the face of it sounds reasonable since you don't see many of them anymore. But several companies are re-discovering nice things about non-IP networks (they can be faster and more secure than IP). The TCP/IP protocol is very big and cumbersome at times. As an example is "ATA over Ethernet" or AoE. This is bleeding edge, experimental stuff right now, but give it time you may see a lot of it down the road. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Pilson Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] shocking... At 8:24 PM -0400 6/25/07, John Mason wrote: >Just another wacky article for the folks at ComputerWorld. Some >technologies are clearly dead. Like OS/2 which IBM no longer supports. >CF is no where near death. > >ColdFusion has 4 different groups developing the language: Adobe, New >Atlanta, Railo, and Smith Project. These groups actively support and >developed the language are a very active community. Is the CF world >smaller than say Java or .Net? Sure but that doesn't mean it's dead or >even near death. Just that the companies that develop it haven't been >very good on the PR front. ComputerWorld mention later all the people >calling them up supporting CF after that article came out which >surprised them. Bare in mind, these lists aren't very scientific. > >It just shows that top 10 lists are usually silly and shouldn't be >taken that seriously. Yes, I agree to all of that above. I mean I code in Lasso and it has the same death threats and issues CF seems to have from time to time, but the community that keeps it going is going very strong. Of course there is no Adobe behind it, but I know the inside track and it is definitely not dying. -- <---------------------------------------------------------------> Alex Pilson FlagShip Interactive, Inc. 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