Security by obscurity is not a good mechanism... let everyone see.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
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On Aug 1, 2007, at 3:24 PM, John Mason wrote:

Dean, I'll need to email you off list after the meeting. I naturally don't like sharing that stuff in the open for everyone to see.

For everyone out there - needless to say, don't just depend on the CF level of security. Security should always include multiple layers. Otherwise it won't hold up very well.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF Service Account

Sandbox security is fine when it is backed up by OS-level security.

What hack do you refer to? That's a new one on me.

-dhs


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On Aug 1, 2007, at 3:12 PM, John Mason wrote:

There's some, but there's a known remote java class hack to get around it. I'm testing CF8 for this issue. Bluedragon doesn't have this issue by the way. For a lot of things sandboxing is certainly good if people would just use it ;) But if you have COM objects on and CF is running under the local service account. Which a lot of people do for some reason. You can pretty much do anything you want to a server. Taking CF off local service account achieves a lot of known security issues out right and it's easy to implement. That's why I jump on that whenever possible.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:59 PM
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No value in the resource/sandbox security? :-)
/charlie

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Saxon
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:05 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF Service Account

Thank you John and Dean for your feedback. The CF script needs to write the contents of a web form to a folder on another server so that an application on that server can read in the form results.



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