Was about to mention this.  I've read that gZip is possible and with good
results.  I seem to recall Dave Wolf from Cynergy mentioning it before.  Of
course you miss out on that object mapping coolness in FDS and you miss out
on forking out that big $$ too, eh?

Interesting to hear about the ACEGI stuff.  I've been involved in some
testing of IBMs FIM product for SSO and see no way it can be used to secure
RO access either so far.

DK

On 1/30/07, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I have what may be a useful solution to this challenge: http compression.


Yours is a rather old dilemma that goes back to the days of building Flash
apps "the old way"...images of coal and steam come to mind, but I digress
:-).

The frequent claim was that one should favor remoting over XML/web
services  because it was less verbose and therefore faster, as you're indeed
experiencing.

But as was pointed out then, consider that you could ask the web server to
compress the XML (using standard GZip compression). That might eliminate the
difference in the size of the packet. Now, I don't know if the HTTPService
in Flex can support unzipping Gzipped data, but I'd suspect it could. I'll
leave it for others to test.

Hope it may prove a helpful observation.

PS As then, this doesn't mean there there aren't advantages of remoting
over XML, but as Darren explains, remoting isn't working for him, so this
could be useful in such cases.

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/



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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Darrell
Ross
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:21 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [AFFUG Discuss] XML vs. Query via Remote Object from CF

 We're using HTTPService calls to bring back XML in lieu of RemoteObject
calls.  We're seeing a time lag of around 20% in using HTTP instead of
Remoting.  This seems consistent with an article someone on my team spotted
recently (forgot the URL).



Our environments may be different from others on this list. We are
integrating Flex with J2EE (Spring/Hibernate/ACEGI).  We found that Remoting
with Data Services does not permit us to utilize our ACEGI security layer.
In talking with Adobe, this seems to be a bug.  HTTPService calls are the
only viable way to currently incorporate a back-end security framework with
Flex as your presentation tier. An additional overhead step is that you have
to filter your XML through a hidden JSP before it is displayed in your UI.



Oh yeah…..and then there is the $20K per processor if you want to use
Remoting with Flex (it requires you to buy Data Services).



Darrell Ross

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