just a point on that RF-IR bug
an arduino board+xbee shield+a experimental IR shield we where working
some time ago (finally released but we have done some prototype)
I bet it can work as Werner suggested .. just have to implemente xbee
protocol stack on Ben or implement the whatever protocol Ben use on
Arduino :P

2011/1/25 Werner Almesberger <[email protected]>:
> Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
>> If feasible, add an infrared LED on the back
>
> I have my set of doubts about IR LEDs. Not so much about the general
> usefulness of being able to control devices via IR but more about the
> communication process:
>
> Due to its directional nature, communication with a mobile IR device is
> quite unreliable. Also, there's usually no readily machine-accessible
> feedback mechanism. You need a human to interpret whatever reaction a
> command produces, and then make the corresponding
> retransmit/proceed/give up decision.
>
> While this may be tolerable for simple remote controls, I would expect
> better from a high-function device like the Ben. A much more reliable
> approach would be to equip the Ben with an RF transceiver and to make
> a small RF-to-IR bug. The bug could go right on the device you wish to
> control or it could at least be placed such that its line of sight is
> not obstructed.
>
> Now you can actually engineer proper state transitions. The RF
> communication is still somewhat unreliable, but it's two-way, so you
> have niceties like ARQ, and so on. The IR side always operates under
> ideal conditions and thus becomes a lot more reliable.
>
> You asked on IRC about the possibility of making an IR board for the
> Ben. I think that would be a good starting point. The Ben is a nice
> environment for prototyping such things. Once you have the IR side
> worked out, making the RF-to-IR bug shouldn't be too difficult.
>
>> so we can use Nanonote as a powerful and
>> (very) smart remote control.
>
> Hmm, for me, this creates a mental image of "Married with Children"
> and maybe "The Sopranos". Makes me wonder if the universal remote
> control is still much of a status symbol in a customer base that
> probably identifies more with the protagonists of "The Big Bang
> Theory" ;-)
>
>> Sharism can NOT intelligently make business decision to green light
>> (fund) the YA development program before:
>
> Don't you say ! ;-) I think losing sleep over the possibility of
> Sharism blowing a vast amount of money on a shakily defined project
> is a problem Wolfgang would rather like to have these days ;-)
>
>> -- ?? can we start with schematics Carlos & helpers created
>>     about 18 months  ago for a tweaked Ben? ten boards were
>>     manufactured. are any of those working or being used?
>
> If the general design will be sufficiently similar to the Ben, then
> I think it can't hurt to have another look at the AVT2. In the best
> case, it could save some prototyping work.
>
> - Werner
>
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