I think he understood, but was suggesting other virtualization ideas that he 
felt would be a more rewarding use of developer resources.  To me, it sounds 
like you want the feature set of pfsense available on a platform that runs 
virtual machines... for example, having a "pfSense" option in VMware to 
compliment the NAT and HostOnly networking options.

I don't think it's a bad idea, I just don't think it should be a direction 
pfSense travels.  I think pfSense is an amazing project that has pushed its way 
past the usefulness of several commercial offerings, and that diluting it with 
additions to virtualize on top of it would take away from its core purpose.

If there are situations that merit combining all these features (pfSense, VMs) 
into one device, perhaps there's also another solution that would allow them to 
be separate, and still solve the problem?

-Adrian


----- Original Message -----
From: "pfsense sense" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:13:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [pfSense-discussion] xen aware pfsense.

" multiple concurrent PFSense instances" 

no, you have also missed my point... i'm not interested in vistualizing 
"pfsense" 
my idea was to "provide" VT options, a dom0, "along side" pfsense... as it is 
available in Linux. 


| OS --> service (file) 
cloud --> pfsense --> VT --> | OS --> service (mail) 
| OS --> service (database) 







On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Greg Hennessy < [email protected] > 
wrote: 




As the others have said, it depends on what you mean by 'integrate' 

Ignoring the lack of Xen dom0 support in FreeBSD for a moment. 
Utilising VT technology to deliver physical as well as logical isolation of 
multiple concurrent PFSense instances in a manner analagous to 

Fortinet VDOM : http://kc.forticare.com/default.asp?id=2065&Lang=1&SID = 

or 

Juniper VSYS : 
http://www.juniper.net/solutions/literature/white_papers/200103.pdf 

Does have a certain attraction from a managed service perspective. 

Hosting applications within domUs running on PFSense. A complete waste of time. 


Greg 






From: pfsense sense [ [email protected] ] 
Sent: 28 January 2009 00:42 
To: [email protected] 

Subject: [pfSense-discussion] xen aware pfsense. 




has anyone considered the possibility of intergrating xen with pfsense ? 

i might be loosing my mind but wouldn't it be nice to have a pfsense running on 
harware and a vistualization environemnt that allow us to install our OS's of 
choice perfectly protected behind pfsense ? 

does anything else think it's a good idea ? 


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