> so the people benefiting > are those who want a supported API for that functionality, and it > seems only reasonable to expect them to do the job of moving the code, > rather than expecting the pip developers to do so.
This is where I think we disagree and I feel the rhetoric is a bit harmful -- personally I don't benefit much at all, I actually don't think any individual maintainer inside the PyPA benefits much beyond having a new project to maintain, so the 'helps me vs helps you' framing isn't really the point. If it strictly helped me to add a project to my list of things to maintain I would have done that already. The real issue here is that we all have different implementations and they create non-uniform / disjointed user experiences. Converging on a set of common elements to extract seems like step 1 I am fairly new to the PyPA, and I don't know how any of these processes actually work. But I do know that painting this as "us vs you" when my interest actually in helping the user of packaging tools is causing a disconnect for me anytime we engage on this -- and I'm not asking you to tackle any of this yourself, except possibly review someone's PR down the road to swap out some internals. Dan Ryan gh: @techalchemy // e: d...@danryan.co > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Moore [mailto:p.f.mo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:09 PM > To: Donald Stufft > Cc: Dan Ryan; Thomas Kluyver; Distutils > Subject: Re: [Distutils] disable building wheel for a package > > Agreed. Furthermore, if people are of the opinion that pip's > implementation is suitable, copying it out into packaging is likely > not going to be at all controversial. Of course, it's not going to be > any direct advantage to pip if that's done (we get the same > functionality, just in a different place), so the people benefiting > are those who want a supported API for that functionality, and it > seems only reasonable to expect them to do the job of moving the code, > rather than expecting the pip developers to do so. > > In the case of pip's location code, more time has likely been spent > discussing the problem than it would actually take to make the change. > (Of course, no one person has spent that much time in discussions, but > it adds up - coding doesn't work that way sadly). > > Paul > -- Distutils-SIG mailing list -- distutils-sig@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to distutils-sig-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mm3/mailman3/lists/distutils-sig.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/mm3/archives/list/distutils-sig@python.org/message/AQNFQBR3VHYCMVQRTMKAE4PIEKOP7SOT/
