Todd O'Bryan wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Tom Tobin wrote:
> >> On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> In line with other sentiments I've expressed here in the past: IMHO,
> >> this means your *project manager* is addled, not Django's release
> >> process.  If you can understand that the development version is
> >> stable
> >> enough to use, but your project manager can't, your project manager
> >> doesn't deserve his title.  :p
> >
> > First, the django developers are quite egotistical if they are
> > claiming
> > that there nightly .95 build is stable,  when at any time they could
> > introduce a bug. The whole point of a release is to do proper testing
> > and you can say "yes, we froze the code and did tons of testing so we
> > feel it is stable".
> >  NOT "yeah i hack it everynight and I'm  so awsome i never write a
> > single bug (and my poop doesn't stink -- James Bennett)".
>
> My guess is that no one commits anything without running all the unit
> tests plus the tests they've written for what they're currently
> working on. In other words, everything that people were checking
> worked before should still work now. It may be the case that
> something that wasn't being checked, but was working anyway, has been
> broken, but you're not going to figure that out without tests that
> exercise it. And once you have those, they go back in the tests that
> people check against before they commit anything.
>
> Read about agile development. You can release stable code without
> freezing it.
>
> Todd

When you talk all I hear is poop hitting a toilet.

So when was the last time you have seen an astablished real open source
product tell its users to use there nightly build it a production
enviroment?

I can hear it now:

 Linus: "Yes, IBM, use last nights kernal build on your 50 million
dollor cluster.  Don't worry: we use agile (that makes everything ok)"

If you have ever worked on a non-kiddy project (ie $$$) you will
understand the ideas behind milestones,stables, and real beta-testing.


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