On 07/11/06, Gábor Farkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jay Parlar wrote:
> > On 11/6/06, David Blewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I would like to suggest that the branches that are felt to be complete
> >> sans testing be merged into a single branch. I am anxiously awaiting
> >> several different branch merges to core but do not have time to check
> >> each individual one out to test them. Maybe it's time to begin a larger
> >> effort, similar to magic-removal, at merging all these branches?
> >
> > This is a constant complaint we're seeing now. The problem is, not
> > enough people are actually jumping in and testing out the branches.
> > The core devs tell people all the time that it's generally safe to run
> > Django off the trunk, but if a bunch of untested branches are merged
> > in, well, welcome to disaster time.
> >
> (what follows will be a little critical. please don't get it wrong. i
> simply am stating what i think is wrong, and what should be done so that
> we can move on, and finish/merge these branches)
>
> i think the problem is also the documentation (well, the lack of it).
>
> for example, i was trying to do some branch-testing (actually what i
> want is the birth of the unicode-branch, but currently the best way to
> achieve it seems to merge the other branches into the trunk :),
>
> so i arrived at:
>
> http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/ActiveBranches
>
> the status of the various branches:
>
> for the following 4 branches, the activeBranches page says that they
> need end-user testing:
> ================================
> - fullHistory
>         - http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/FullHistory says "Status: Almost
> there", and below it's shown that some parts are not done yet
>
> - rowLevelPermissions
>         - the http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/RowLevelPermissionsDeveloper
> shows some unit-tests that still do not pass
>
> - schemaEvolution
>         - the wiki-pages only talk about (at least 2 different) proposals. 
> does
> that mean that one of the proposals has been implemented? which one?
>

I don't think any of those proposals reflect what is actually
implemented. I've used the schema-evolution branch and have had some
issues which are yet to be resolved or even responded to by the
developer.


> - search-api
>         - i could not find any documentation about it
> ================================
>
> the rest:
>
> - multipleDBsupport
>         - the wikipage says that the author wants to apply some changes from
> the oracle-changes, and only then can/should the testing begin
>
> - genericAuthorization
>         - under active development
>
>
> so, in short, the only testable branches seems to be fullHistory and
> rowLevelPermissions, and even there it's not clear if they are now
> considered done, or still in progress.
>
>
>
> so, i think those wikipages linked from
> http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/ActiveBranches should be first
> updated, and should contain info about the following:
>
> - if they are finished (ready for testing) or not
> - documentation about how it works.
>
> because otherwise it's quite hard to test.
>
> i don't know if we should send mails directly to the authors, or they
> are reading django-devel...
>
>
> p.s: as i said, i deeply respect the work of the developers on those
> branches. all i wrote was with the goal that we can make the life of the
> testers easier => get more testing for the branches => merge the
> branches into the trunk
>
> gabor
>
> >
>

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