I'll chime in just for a few cents here. First, I think it's worth noting that most Python programmers find little value in how many characters they have to type. Sure, Python is generally less verbose than many other languages, but only to the extent of making it more readable. So kep readability in mind when you're suggesting changes, not just how many characters are "saved".
That said, I'd also recommend that if you're going to draw any parallels with unittest assertions, you should probably do it reliably. Your validate_exception() example was completely unreadable to me, because it works quite differently than the one in unittest. On the whole though, I have to agree with Russell on this. The unittest module was written to fall in line with implementations in other languages, probably so that documentation could be reusable. It's not terribly Pythonic, but people use it because it works well. It's also now well-entrenched, so changing it would cause more problems than it would solve. It's certainly not a banner-worthy Python module. Also of note is the fact that people generally don't write and maintain tests very often. Good tests can be reused for multiple iterations of development. In fact, good testing practices would specifically avoid changing tests unelss it's absolutely necessary (major feature change), so people deal with the strangness of unittest far less often than they deal with other parts of their code. Given the goal of readability, we should focus on making the more-often-used tasks more readable, not simply shorter. -Gul P.S. This is no way intended to mean I have any opinion on the readability of the proposal in question. I'm just bringing up some things to keep in mind when discussing. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
