On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 07:33 -0700, varikin wrote:
[...]
> I will test this, but I also want to point something out. I see a lot
> of talk about developers not having access to Oracle, but that is
> wrong.

I have neither the disk space or the CPU power on my laptop to run the
Oracle tests in a VM in any practical sense. It's not merely difficult
or unbelievably time consuming; it's impossible. I used to have a 64 bit
machine that had Oracle installed on it (sometimes -- VMWare pretty
regularly broke with kernel upgrades, so I was often in a position of
not being able to run VMware because I chose to have other bug and
security fixes installed on my system) and it took hours to run the
Oracle test suite, particularly if something went wrong and I had to
untangle things from an intermediate state. These days I only have
access to a laptop that is quite a few years old now, so that option
isn't available to me any longer.

I've agreed to the Oracle developer license in the past (before I
started ever doing Django development work) and sometimes Oracle's
authentication server on their website was up for long enough I was able
to log in and download the developer edition ("unbreakable", my ass! The
backend to their website was broken pretty much all the time last year).
I'm aware it is possible to get a developer edition, but being able to
download a tarball isn't the sole requirement.

This is one of the very few areas I have to totally rely on other
members of the community to do the final piece of any development work I
do and I make no apologies for that.

Fortunately, in this case Justin has been able to do the requisite
testing and pointed out an assumption I missed in my fake testing. I
need to rethink the solution a little and probably hold my nose and
commit one fix to 1.0.X and a more holistic change to trunk. I just need
to work out the details of that second piece first to avoid too much
churn.

Regards,
Malcolm



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