On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:07 PM, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I do not understand, when everywhere django tries so very hard in a
> > pragmatic sense to decouple things where it logically makes sense, then why
> > suddenly an ideological outburst of "because we are not violating any specs,
> > we refuse to even think".
>
> And this is where the histrionics take over and I sign out. If your
> first response to the discussion here is to say "Django developers
> refuse to even think about this", then honestly I don't have the first
> clue how to go about helping you.

Don't get me wrong here, I mean "we refuse to even think" in a
positive fashion, as a rational conclusion after much thinking, and
may well be valid one for django in the current case. Its quite
similar to position on thread safety, thread safety is complex issue,
and trying to prove thread safety for entire django and all subsequent
patches accepted would/could slow down the development quite a bit,
and thus django developers/committers kind of "refuse to think about
it" when committing/releasing.

I just happen to think its much simpler in this case, django
core+contrib apps in django svn[1] have hardly a dozen
views+middlewares, it would not be difficult to go through them and
put the info on a wiki page. [This is when "we refuse to think about"
becomes django's position, which happens to be current position, my
objection is merely that it should not be rooted in ideology, but on
technical merits/considerations[2]].

[1]: I hate overloaded words, whats the term for django == django that
is in the trunk? Django core? But it excludes contrib apps, but saying
django core+contrib might imply/include apps that are not really in
django.contrib, but also on google code etc. I guess django-svn should
do.

[2]: There are too many ways to use django, and one cant think about
all of them is a valid technical reason, but what I am talking about
here may be important enough given its impact in scaling, which should
be kind of somewhere on django's priorities.

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