On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 6:26 PM, j...@jeffcroft.com <j...@jeffcroft.com>wrote:
> First off, I'm generally on board with everything you've said here. > Only three points/questions I'd like to make: > > 1. I wouldn't say "Wilson is out of the picture" without talking to > him first. I know he's a busy man and my impression is that he doesn't > have time for this right now, but I'm certainly not going to speak for > him on that matter. Hopefully he'll speak up and let us know (I do > know he's been following this discussion, at least casually). I > totally agree that what we're really talking about now is find his > successor, but let's not start doing so without confirming with him > that he doesn't still want this position -- in my opinion, he should > have first dibs on it if he wants it. > Totally agreed. I think that Wilson's input will be very valuable in this process. He is the one who was around and knows the development process at World Online that allowed the current admin and templates to be formed. I am really curious what exactly that is. I don't want him to feel like we're pushing him out in any way. He has a brilliant designer, and his input is totally appreciated. I think that he is already implicitly part of this team of core designers, being a core dev and a designer, if he has the time. (I like this terminology, "core designer", since it doesn't imply one person, and everyone immediately knows what it means). > > 2. Is there value in having more than one "design czar?" As in, would > it be better to have a small team handling this rather than one > person? I'm not sure I know the answer, but I do worry that any one > person sets us up for the situation we're in with Wilson -- where > someone is the "leader", but doesn't really have the time or resources > to do that job (either temporarily or permanently). I'm not sure what > my own opinion is one this one, yet, but I thought I'd rase the > question. Clearly we don't need a ton of people, but maybe a few? > > 3. On the topic of Wilson: let's be clear that none of this is his > fault. He did a spectacular job on the admin interface, and never > formally received a "design czar" like position in the community that > I know of. He's busy like many of us, and he hasn't let us down at > all, in my opinion. > Totally agreed. Like in my original post, this is open source. Nobody is required to do anything. He has given us so much work that I am grateful for, and Django is in a better place because. It's more of a social signal that we really do care about design, and actually have the people who can step up and do something about it. Wilson was that person in the beginning, being the defacto person who deals with design decision for the project. I agree he was never appointed, but that is how things worked. If we are trying to establish process, or ideas about how to perform a similar role, then the only thing that we have to look at is how it was previously done. Luckily we have an excellent model of how things worked previously, and they seemed to work pretty damn well. So hopefully we can emulate that going forward, and produce similarly awesome results. Cheers, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en.
