I'd also be interested in working on this, as long as I'm not alone on
it. Have you and/or Alex set up any kind of mailing list for it? Do
you plan to use git's issue tracker or something else? What's the
process plan for getting development kick-started on it?

    - Gabriel

On Apr 30, 11:22 am, Idan Gazit <i...@pixane.com> wrote:
> FWIW, I spoke with Alex the other week about turning piano-man into a
> more finished product.
>
> So long as core guarantees that they'll at least take a look at
> whatever is made, I'm +1 on rolling our own, and am willing to
> champion this project.
>
> I think having something we can easily shape to meet our process needs
> will be a Good Thing. A good ticket tracker helps devs paw through the
> pile of tickets and keep kicking the ball forward with a minimum of
> effort. Reducing the overhead on core will make those people's lives
> more pleasant (and free up their time for dealing with, you know,
> code.)
>
> Another benefit: one of the complaints I (anecdotally) hear all the
> time is that it is hard to contribute to django. Part of that is the
> high bar we set for contribution, and the (necessary) process we
> impose in order to prevent oopses, but I posit that a significant part
> of the feeling stems from people confusing a lack of activity on their
> ticket with a lack of activity. Making it easier for devs to update
> tickets will help, and providing some kind of dashboard on project
> stats will give us something to point to next time somebody throws
> their toys out of the pram because their pony isn't being seen to.
>
> I'll be in Berlin, and plan to sprint on piano-man there. Plan:
>
> 1. Figure out a handful of "most useful" tricks that trac doesn't
> accomplish, and adding those to piano-man. I particularly like the
> idea of baking in some behaviors like timed ticket death and other
> things that prevent a buildup of detritus and cut down on ticket
> gardening chores.
> 2. Put up a test instance with a dump of data from trac.
> 3. Kick the tires and see if it engenders interest.
>
> If people think it's awesome, we'll keep going. :)
>
> -I
>
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