On Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:57:26 PM UTC+2, Andre Terra wrote:
>
> Hi Ashraful,
>
> First of all, thank you for contributing with your ideas for this project. 
> Your mockup is one of the most aesthetically pleasing so far IMHO but there 
> are some issues that need addressing before it could be replace the current 
> design.
>
> Since the mockup to feedback ratio in this thread seems distant from 1 at 
> the moment, I wanted to contribute to the discussion, so please bear with 
> me.
>
> I really like your overall use of whitespace, especially right at the top. 
> My first thought after seeing the design is that it doesn't feel cluttered, 
> and this is my biggest issue with the current layout. But the more I looked 
> into it, the more I noticed key areas are missing.
>
> Russel has mentioned several times that djangoproject.com is not only for 
> developers. We need to "sell" the project to sponsors who provide publicity 
> and financial support, and managers who can foment adoption of our most 
> loved framework in design shops around the globe and corporate environments 
> seeking modern solutions to everyday challenges.
>
> It could be argued that developers themselves don't need a "download" 
> button. Django is hosted on at least half a dozen platforms and the ways to 
> access these are also greatly diverse. I'm one of those who believe that 
> familiarity with python packages and VCS tools are paramount to the success 
> of Django developers, so pip and git are probably more relevant in today's 
> world than tarballs.
>
> We also need to do address how Django relies on the community to prosper, 
> and anyone can contribute. Users can submit tickets, developers can patch 
> code, newbies can write docs and many more. This also needs to stand out in 
> the layout.
>
> I like your use of silver and to be honest, it goes with green much better 
> than our current beige, whilst looking more professional, clean and modern. 
> I see no reason for keeping *everything* silver, however. Surely we could 
> include a dash of green in the middle and bottom section, don't you agree?
>
> I also don't think the blog posts are layed out in a particularly elegant 
> way. There's no telling what the most recent post is, and laying them out 
> on a grid seems like a waste of valuable space. Perhaps you could split 
> that into a main area on the left and additional, less prominent info on 
> the right?
>
> A lot of the previous mockups made great suggestions on addition content 
> that you could incorporate, like videocasts for example.
>
> Last but not least, I don't get the logo. It's not that it doesn't look 
> good, but it simply doesn't fit Django. The framework is not in any way 
> related to chatting, so the speech bubble feels out of place. As for the 
> icons, they're somewhat random and fail to illustrate what the project is 
> about.
>
> "The web framework for perfeccionists with deadlines" is a very abstract 
> concept. If we can't come up with a concrete drawing of that vision, we 
> should at least be inspired to design a conceptual and abstract piece that 
> resonates with the notions of "framework", "perfeccionism", and 
> "deadlines". Django's most admired strength is how it manages to solve the 
> trade off between robustness and complexity in a seemingly natural way, and 
> we should convey that.
>
There is a clear consensus about the Pony not fitting here. Almost every 
project use something from the nature as a logo (a whale, an apple, a leaf, 
an elephant etc). This is way too boring ! I suggest a good and rock-solid 
anvil.


 

> Before getting back to work, take a look at the previous mockups and the 
> criticism that followed. There's a lot to be learned from what others did 
> well, and it might also help you avoid the same pitfalls.
>
>
> Cheers,
> André Terra
>
> -- Sent from my phone, please excuse any typos. --
>
>
> On May 23, 2012 9:38 PM, "Ashraful Sheikh" <inl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I saw this on HackerNews(news.ycombinator.com) and wanted to contribute. 
>> Here is my mockup: http://i.imgur.com/dSMSJ.jpg
>>
>> With the design, I focused on keeping the look extremely clean, 
>> professional and minimalistic. The content is based on that of the current 
>> site. The mockup may seem a bit lacking in color, but adding eye-catching 
>> icons for the features, and the screens for the "built with Django" section 
>> will add sufficient color to liven up the design. On wider screens, the 
>> blog posts will appear in a siderbar to the left of the features list.
>>
>> If you guys like it, email me at inl...@gmail.com, or reply here. You 
>> can check out my previous work at madebyargon.com. Some of you may have 
>> seen the redesign I did for VideoLAN (videolan.org) which receive a 
>> positive reaction from the open-source community surrounding VLC.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:05:27 PM UTC+6, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dana, 
>>>
>>> I completely agree. I've been trying to get a redesign of 
>>> djangoproject.com going for quite some time under the auspices of the 
>>> Django Foundation. As you can see from the lack of changes, you can see 
>>> that I haven't been particularly successful :-( 
>>>
>>> The fundamental problem is that we have plenty of coding talent at our 
>>> disposal, but not as much design talent. That's not to say that there 
>>> aren't many talented designers in our community -- there are -- it's just 
>>> that they're all very busy. We've approached several people in the Django 
>>> design community asking them to help out, and some have even made done some 
>>> initial work. However, redesign of a high-profile site like 
>>> djangoproject.com is a big job, and nobody has been able to spare the 
>>> time to bring the job to completion. 
>>>
>>> So - at this point I'm open to any offers. I want to avoid design by 
>>> committee -- ideally, I would like to pass this off to a single person (or 
>>> a small group) and give them complete control over design process. I'm not 
>>> completely sure how to organise who gets this role -- suggestions are 
>>> welcome. 
>>>
>>> If you (or anyone else) is interested, drop me a line and I can give you 
>>> the design brief we've been working with. 
>>>
>>> Yours, 
>>> Russ Magee %-) 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 28 April 2012 at 3:22 PM, Dana Woodman wrote: 
>>>
>>> > So now that Django is being moved to Git/Github (which is awesome!), 
>>> maybe it would be a good time to think about a revamped home page for the 
>>> project ala djangoproject.com (http://djangoproject.com)? 
>>> > 
>>> > Obviously this is no small undertaking and would be potentially 
>>> contentions as to what would be the proper path, but I feel (and I don't 
>>> think I'm alone) that djangoproject.com (http://djangoproject.com) 
>>> could use a bit of a facelift. 
>>> > 
>>> > I have some idea of my own as to how this could be accomplished and 
>>> I'm sure there are a ton of others out there with great ideas as well. 
>>> Maybe we could open up some discussion on this idea? 
>>> > 
>>> > Forgive me if this has been proposed before as I'm new to the group! 
>>> > 
>>> > Cheers, 
>>> > Dana 
>>> > 
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