2013/3/30 Victor Hooi <[email protected]>

> heya,
>
> Aha, yes - we need a roadmap, and somebody from the team to execute it
> *grins*.
>
> For the former - I believe there was already discussions on that sort of
> thing on this board?
>
> There's a wiki page with some notes as well:
>
> https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/AdminNext
>
> I also had a look at some of the existing projects:
>
>    - https://github.com/yawd/yawd-admin
>    - https://github.com/michaelhelmick/django-bootstrap-admin (Doesn't
>    appear to be too active)
>    - https://github.com/riccardo-forina/django-admin-bootstrapped
>    - https://github.com/aobo711/bootstrap-django-admin
>    - 
> https://github.com/gkuhn1/django-admin-templates-twitter-bootstrap(Doesn't 
> appear to be too active)
>    - https://github.com/divio/djangocms-admin-style
>
> And there's obviously Grapelli.
>
> A lot of these are obviously just reskins, while others offer a bit more.
>
> From the existing projects, we can draw two clear requirements that people
> want:
>
>    - Changing the look and feel - I'm not sure what Django core's
>    feelings on it, but there seems to be a feeling from the community that the
>    look of the current Django Admin is somewhat dated? Also, any new admin
>    should probably be responsive, and work on mobile or non-desktop devices,
>    if that's possible.
>
>
This question leads to another should Django develop its own css framework
and re-use existing one, if Django use an existing one, Django must make it
easy to work with the preprocessor. While I liked much bootstrap,
foundation's mobile first approach of Foundation is appealing even if more
verbose.


>
>    - More customisations -  a lot of people want to create dashboards
>    around the admin, add new sections/tabs, or move things around - the
>    current Admin doesn't have much scope for that, or it's not easily
>    accessible.
>
> Those are all things that are doable right now. I though it was about
something more «disruptive» that's why I called the page AdminNext to
follow the naming of next html version... whatever the naming, the goal
should be the same aka. not only a cbv-Admin which should only adress the
customisability (and readability) side but add features. This lead me to
the group/permission-centric admin which creates menu based on permissions,
but I did not implement it. I've documented a sketch API [1], but I'm not
very happy with it, I'm now thinking about something in the spirit of
lettuce to create an admin.

I stopped working on the composite admin because a) the composite thing is
too much b) I wasn't confortable with the code handling inlines in current
admin so I started thinking about fixing it but got stuck (!).

Also there is this conversation that is somehow related:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/django-developers/wI18E6BZImQ/TS2wSvUCkaAJ

Maybe Django should gather money somehow and tell a company to do the job
instead of relying on the community ?

HTH,

Amirouche

[1] http://amirouche.github.com/blog/django-admin-next-a-new-api.html



> For the latter, not sure I can help you there...lol. I thought Idan Gazit
> was working on something before though? Or are there other designers on the
> Core team?
>
> Cheers,
> Victor
>
> On Sunday, 24 March 2013 22:14:58 UTC+11, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Victor Hooi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I read recently about Andrew Goodwin's successful kickstarter project
>>> for better Django schema migrations:
>>>
>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/**projects/andrewgodwin/schema-**
>>> migrations-for-django<http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andrewgodwin/schema-migrations-for-django>
>>>
>>> Kudos to him for awesome work on South so far a swell =).
>>>
>>> There doesn't seem to be much movement on the Admin front -
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/django-developers/**
>>> Vozu6U3gz84/vvbTqrWitxIJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-developers/Vozu6U3gz84/vvbTqrWitxIJ>
>>>
>>> I'm wondering - is there any impetus for a similar kickstarter for the
>>> Django admin?
>>>
>>> I for one would be willing to put my money where my mouth is and back it
>>> - and I'm sure other people/companies who use Django in their own projects
>>> would as well.
>>>
>>
>> Good to hear :-)
>>
>> There's one significant difference here. Andrew's project was to deliver
>> South-like functionality to trunk. South is a known quantity, and there
>> have been discussions and threads about exactly what merging South into
>> trunk would look like. And on top of all that, Andrew is the principle
>> author of South, so he's well positioned to do the work.
>>
>> What's the feature set for a new Admin? What are the design goals? And
>> most importantly, who is going to do the work?
>>
>> I'm not saying these questions can't be answered -- but the answers
>> aren't clear at the moment (at least, not to me). Once we've got a clear
>> plan, and someone who is available to deliver on that plan, then a
>> Kickstarter might be appropriate.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Russ Magee %-)
>>
>>
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