On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Victor Hooi <[email protected]> wrote:

> heya,
>
> Aha, yes - we need a roadmap, and somebody from the team to execute it
> *grins*.
>

No - We need someone from the core team to *commit* it. We don't need
someone from the core team to *build* it.

It's also worth pointing out that this is a classic example of a project
that can develop external to Django's core. In theory, Django's admin could
be a completely separate project. If a replacement is to be developed, it
makes sense for that replacement to be developed external to the core
repository, and only be included in core when it reaches a certain level of
maturity.


> For the former - I believe there was already discussions on that sort of
> thing on this board?
>
> There's a wiki page with some notes as well:
>
> https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/AdminNext
>

There's a world of difference between "some notes" and "a clear plan and
direction" :-)


> I also had a look at some of the existing projects:
>
>    - https://github.com/yawd/yawd-admin
>    - https://github.com/michaelhelmick/django-bootstrap-admin (Doesn't
>    appear to be too active)
>    - https://github.com/riccardo-forina/django-admin-bootstrapped
>    - https://github.com/aobo711/bootstrap-django-admin
>    - 
> https://github.com/gkuhn1/django-admin-templates-twitter-bootstrap(Doesn't 
> appear to be too active)
>    - https://github.com/divio/djangocms-admin-style
>
> And there's obviously Grapelli.
>
> A lot of these are obviously just reskins, while others offer a bit more.
>
> From the existing projects, we can draw two clear requirements that people
> want:
>
>    - Changing the look and feel - I'm not sure what Django core's
>    feelings on it, but there seems to be a feeling from the community that the
>    look of the current Django Admin is somewhat dated? Also, any new admin
>    should probably be responsive, and work on mobile or non-desktop devices,
>    if that's possible.
>
> I don't think you'll get any argument from the core team that Django admin
could use a visual refresh, and that mobile accessibility should be part of
that redesign.


>
>    - More customisations -  a lot of people want to create dashboards
>    around the admin, add new sections/tabs, or move things around - the
>    current Admin doesn't have much scope for that, or it's not easily
>    accessible.
>
> For the latter, not sure I can help you there...lol. I thought Idan Gazit
> was working on something before though? Or are there other designers on the
> Core team?
>

There are two BDesignersFL - Idan and Bryan Veloso. However, both are
extremely busy men. Idan did some initial work at DjangoCon 2 years ago,
but I don't think there's been a whole lot of progress since then.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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