+1, cool idea!

everybody write a lot of code for try/except block. this feature can help 
shorten code.

14 марта 2014 г., в 4:34, Josh Smeaton <[email protected]> написал(а):

> +1 on get_or_none. It seems to be a pattern that comes up quite a lot in user 
> code, and I know I've had use for it lots of times. Cal, are you thinking of 
> having a loose function get_or_none(qs, args, kwargs), or implementing it 
> directly on the manager? I think it'd make sense to implement on the manager, 
> but the name doesn't "fit" with the other methods available, so perhaps it'd 
> be better to match it up with get_or_create as a simple shortcut.
> 
> Josh
> 
> On Friday, 14 March 2014 04:48:16 UTC+11, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] 
> wrote:
> Sorry yes, you're quite right.
> 
> To be clear - the proposed solution in this thread is to make 
> `.get_or_none()` work exactly the same as `.get()`, with the only exception 
> that None is returned in place of DoesNotExist. All other logic (args, 
> kwargs, exceptions etc) stay exactly the same.
> 
> Cal
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Sean Bleier <[email protected]> wrote:
> I like the implementation referenced in the SO thread, but I would just point 
> out that `.get_or_none()` should accept both *args and **kwargs. `Q` objects 
> can be passed in as arguments to `.get()` and `.filter()`, so it's only 
> natural to allow that for `.get_or_none()`.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just read through all those threads/tickets, here's my conclusion.
> 
> #2659 was rejected 8 years ago [1] on the basis that it's a "feature creep", 
> and that it "doesn't offer anything revolutionary". However the same could be 
> said for .first() and .last(), yet those were accepted.
> 
> #11352 was rejected by luke plant 2 years ago [4] based on the suggested 
> implementation in that ticket, which is not the same implementation as what 
> I'm proposing this time round. The design of `get_object_or_none` being added 
> into shortcuts is not a good approach, and was right to be rejected.
> 
> #17546 was rejected 2 years ago [3] on the basis that #2659 and #11352 were 
> rejected, both of which I've addressed above.
> 
> First argument - `first()` and `.last()` have been added, yet the principle 
> behind why they were added is the same as `.get_or_none()`. 
> Second argument - The implementation being suggested in this thread is not 
> the same as what has been suggested in the three rejected tickets.
> Third argument - Thread [2] had mostly positive feedback, but there was no 
> BDFL decision specifically on `get_or_none`.
> 
> If I'm missing something here, please let me know.
> 
> Cal
> 
> [1] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2659
> [2] 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/django-developers/get_default/django-developers/3RwDxWKPZ_A/mPtAlQ2b0DwJ
> [3] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/17546
> [4] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/11352
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Shai Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thursday 13 March 2014 18:45:31 Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:
> > Seems this issue was brought up several years ago, though the thread was
> > later hijacked for other functionality and get_or_none fizzled out.
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/django-developers/Saa5nbzqQ2Q
> >
> > In Django 1.6 there were convenience methods added for .first(), for the
> > same principle of not having to catch an IndexError (or in this case, a
> > DoesNotExist error);
> > https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/querysets/#django.db.model
> > s.query.QuerySet.first
> >
> > This seems to be wanted by several users, as seen here;
> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1512059/django-get-an-object-form-the-db
> > -or-none-if-nothing-matches
> >
> > Seems to be quite an easy fix, just needs a proper patch.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> You linked the wrong thread.
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/django-developers/get_default/django-developers/3RwDxWKPZ_A/mPtAlQ2b0DwJ
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/django-developers/first%28%29/django-developers/iaOIvwzUhx4/x5wKtl7Bh2sJ
> 
> I was (and still am) for a get_or_none() that raises an exception when
> it finds multiple objects, but we were overruled.
> 
> Shai.
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