Hi Jannis,
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Jannis Leidel <[email protected]> wrote: > Michael, > > First, I would appreciate if you'd give feedback in a less passive > aggressive style. I hope it's just a matter of language barrier but your > mail came over as far too demanding for just a "curious" question. > I apologize if my email came across as passive aggressive. Probably an artifact of the dozens of revisions I made while composing it. My usual nature is overly direct and I put a great deal of time and effort revising my emails to make sure that my directness cannot be interpreted as aggressive. I will continue to extensively revise my emails to the list before clicking send because I think it is better to be interpreted as passive aggressive instead of outright aggressive. When directing emails to you, I'll try to be more direct so please assume that anything I write is not meant to be offensive or an attack. If you or anyone else thinks I'm being too direct or not direct enough, feel free to call me out on it or ask me to clarify anything I've rewritten and I'd be happy to do so. > but simply no one spent the time doing the necessary steps to mark a DEP > as active. That is the entire point of my various DEP related emails. The process is new and not well understood, especially by those of us in the community that are left wondering and waiting. > Next to personal reasons like recuperating from PyCon I think the fact > that it's a new effort means > also some hiccups and awkward waiting. Please bare with us and in doubt > lean toward the side where you see us as humans and not machines > implementing a process. > My biggest gripe about the process so far is the lack of communication. Just like the devs, the community members are humans and largely comprised of volunteers. If we were machines, there would be no complaints as we block waiting for an unknown amount of time for something to happen. If I hadn't written my emails, how many weeks/months do you think it would have been before the next steps took place or anything was communicated about what the community can expect? There will always be a conference or personal reason. I understand that and our personal lives are clearly more important than Django. This is also the reason why I asked questions about if there are enough active core developers. This is a new process that demands more time of the core team. Regards, Michael Manfre -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAGdCwBsAdADETqihEeuxeuMQah3C-h8Nd5TwJYOkzDapgBwf_Q%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
